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That was impressive  [message #55480] Tue, 20 January 2009 17:30 Go to next message
timmy

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After that speech the world has a leader. Even from here I would follow him. I can see no other national leader whose words or stature today can match him, certainly not the unpleasant grey man who leads the UK.

And his speech brought me hope that all people in the USA are to be equal at last, for he said so.

May his deeds match his words.

We may have a monarch, but the USA most definitely has a President for the first time in many years.



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Re: That was impressive  [message #55487 is a reply to message #55480] Tue, 20 January 2009 21:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
acam is currently offline  acam

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Yes, he's a good politician and his speech pulled a good many strings that needed to be pulled. And I think he's a good man but he does have an augean stable to clean out. Corruption is supposed to be worse in Africa, but I'm convinced there is a lot of in the USA and by a lot of respectable and very rich businessmen who will resist a new broom (a bit!).

I wish him well and welcome him but I'm hoping rather than expecting him to put right even the obvious things that have been going wrong in the USA fro the last few years.

Love,
Anthony
Re: That was impressive  [message #55495 is a reply to message #55480] Wed, 21 January 2009 03:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I missed his speech. Unfortunately I was one of the few people at my agency who had work to do instead of tv to watch. But I've heard him speak often enough. He gives plenty of reason for hope. I just hope that he can pull it off.

I have my doubts. But that is my nature when it comes to politics. I've seen so many politicians say all the right things and not one of them has failed to disappoint me.

(thought it may be difficult)Think good thoughts,
e
Re: That was impressive  [message #55497 is a reply to message #55480] Wed, 21 January 2009 09:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fingolfin is currently offline  Fingolfin

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Hope is one thing, deeds are something completely different...
Since both Democratic and Republican campaigns were financed by the same people or institutions (albeit in different order), I am afraid that he will not be able to sweep that Augean stable despite being a new and shiny broom. I worry he will be only next in a long line of marionettes in the hands of FED.

Marek



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icon12.gif All animals are equal and ... ... ...  [message #55501 is a reply to message #55487] Wed, 21 January 2009 13:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
acam is currently offline  acam

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And, unless I'm mistaken, he got Gene Robinson to say the prayers at the inauguration.

He's being what I would like to be: "All things to all men" Wink

Well, most of them.

Love,
Anthony
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What you say does make sense. But, I do hope you are wrong. I believe the major difference between President Obama and the prior one is integrity. President Obama has it in abundance and the former president was sorely lacking.

I realize that one person cannot effect sweeping changes in that quagmire that is Washington D.C.. One person CAN take the first steps and push for changes in the right direction. I am hopeful, for the first time in years. Time will tell.


"President Barack Obama's new administration ordered all federal agencies and departments on Tuesday to stop any pending regulations until they can be reviewed by incoming staff, halting last-minute Bush orders in their tracks."

Good on you! So it begins.
Re: That was impressive  [message #55534 is a reply to message #55497] Thu, 22 January 2009 07:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I hope he will turn out to be more like Theodore Roosevelt. Even though Roosevelt came from money. "We demand that big business give the people a square deal; in return we must insist that when anyone engaged in big business endeavors to do right he shall himself be given a square deal." Roosevelt was a progressive Republican when we desperately needed a progressive! The Republican party of his time called him a "damned cowboy". If Obama is successful he will be remarkably successful if not the worst case the US will go to the extremist once again. If that should happen the world could be ruined!

We will see where he stands within the next few years. Hope is all we have right now.



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Re: That was impressive  [message #55537 is a reply to message #55504] Thu, 22 January 2009 11:16 Go to previous message
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Yes, Cameron, I agree. When Bush did things to help his oily friends he wouldn't say why but always produced a fudged reason.

I fear that if Obama tells the truth all the time about what he's about then he will be less successful than I want him to be.

The pork barrel that is politics in the USA will take a great deal of subtlety to overcome.

The difference between the two is in the motive. I really think Obama is where he is, not out of self aggrandisement but from a genuine desire to do good to the nation and to improve the lot of all people.

That was what was so terrible about Mrs Thatcher here. She made greed respectable and in doing so devalued the public-spirited motives of a lot of our civil service. The body politic is very much worse off as a result and we all are worse governed.

When government is for the benefit of the rich to help them get richer life is worse for everyone else.

Love from everyone else and
Anthony

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