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Macky
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I am fascinated with emo culture. It seems to be a covert way to get gays to be accepted. Can anyone tell me more about it?
answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061214192345AAw39UC
Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brothers to dwell together in unity!
Ps 133:1 NASB
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The link you give, Macky, gives a far better answer than I ever could, but I'm going to add my twopennyworth. This is from my own observations and is by no means a definitive answer. I've only noticed emo boys, but that's me. The qualifications are that they must be inordinately thin and have long straight hair usually styled over one eye and black, either natural or dyed. They may well wear make-up. They usually wear black clothes. You don't see many around here, but I did see one the other day and he was extremely good-looking and obviously took a pride in his appearance. Also he was happy which does not fit in with the culture.
I don't think that being emo necessarily means that you're gay, but I can see how the lifestyle would appeal to gay boys of a gentler disposition.
Those of you acquainted with the Lüscher colour test will know that those with a preference for black have a penchant towards depression and suicide.
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[Updated on: Thu, 19 March 2009 12:23]
I dream of boys with big bulges in their trousers,
Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.
…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
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Macky
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Thanks Nigel,
It seems that there is a certain disregard for sexual morays in this subculture. For instance from what I read, boys kiss boys as, like, an emo thing or something, and it is not always gay boys. But isn't that a lovely cover for a gay boy?
I think the depression side of the thing is simply adolescent angst, but whereas our culture would hide it, they believe in being open about it and that has to be very good.
The more I find out about the movement,the more positive it looks. I think these kids are onto something that can improve society.
Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brothers to dwell together in unity!
Ps 133:1 NASB
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Emo describes a style of music, fashion, and behavior. Emo is not only a culture, but a way of living which goes againts society. Everyone is free to do whatever he wants. This is why emo boys are more open to display emotions with other boys. It is by no means sexual in nature. Kissing, for example, is considered an emo thing to do. It doesn't mean they are gay. Some will do it for popularity, others for experimentation, and others just don't like it. This is why they dress, act, and listen to music that is different than regular society.
However, there are some common trends:
Music... generally expresses deep emotions personal to the artist.
Fashion... tight jeans, dark clothes, long black hair with bangs that cover one eye.
Behavior...usually tend to be more in touch with their emotions, sometimes becoming depress and even suicidal.
In school, i used to have a big crush on this emo boy. He was so cute. One day i asked him if i could kiss him. To my surprise he said yes and i got my wish. It was one of my top 3 most passionate kisses i've ever had. Just thinking about it brings back good memories. I asked him why he said yes and he said he didn't mind doing it. He did, however, had a girlfriend ;-D
Funny thing, as i sit here typing this note, outside there is an emo band playing. I'll try to snap a picture if i can.
You don't love someone because they are beautiful, they are beautiful because you love them.
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Macky
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Thanks M. Wonderful story about the kiss. Great he would give it. Cool you would ask. I'm sure there all types of emo pepole, but I doubt that there too many homophobes among them. I think its especially nice that they don't keep hurt bottled up in them too. I think its good to be able to express it openly. I like their souly poetry. Hell I can even identify with their cutting to stop the hurt inside them. When I lost my first great love, I carved his inbitials in my wrists with a bent paperclip. The pain gave me momentary relief and the scabs made his dear initials part of me. I got through it fine though.
Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brothers to dwell together in unity!
Ps 133:1 NASB
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To be honest i wasn't sure he would agree to it. I talked to my girl-friends about it and all say i should just go for it. One day after school, i gather up the courage to just ask. All of our friends saw it and he didn't care one bit. Last time i heard of him, he is as straight as a guy can be. He lives in a different city.
Cutting i never understood. I have never tried it nor i think i'll ever will. It just doesn't appeal to me. But it each its own, right?
You don't love someone because they are beautiful, they are beautiful because you love them.
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Macky
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I think that the cutting thing is just another form of what is called "self mortification". If you google it, you'll see the practice is as old as mankind. Most mainstream religions support cetain forms of"self mortification'.
Basically, the idea is to assuage a mental pain by inflicting a physical one. What is really sad is when someone has so much mental hurt that they get addicted to hurting themselves physically for relief.
Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brothers to dwell together in unity!
Ps 133:1 NASB
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Macky wrote:
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> Basically, the idea is to assuage a mental pain by inflicting a physical one. What is really sad is when someone has so much mental hurt that they get addicted to hurting themselves physically for relief.
I think there are a number of elements involved in cutting, and the balance varies from person to person
using physical pain to distract from mental torment is certainly one of them - and for some of us, some of the time, at some points in our lives, it worked. Endorphins are probably responsible ...
there's an element of feeling out of control, that one is powerless to affect the course of one's life, or being bullied or abused, or one is in some kind of intolerable circumstances. The only thing that one can actually "own" or "control" is one's own body ... and cutting can be a rebellious assertion of that ultimate ownership.
sometimes, I think there's an element of showing oneself that one can take pain which is self-chosen, and so one can also deal with pain that is externally inflicted
It's a rough thing to go through.
Yup, I am speaking from personal experience - from the very end of my teens to roughly my early 30s I had several episodes of "self-harming". It still is something I find very difficult to talk about.
"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. ... Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night devoid of stars." Martin Luther King
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Macky
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I well understand the exquisit mental agony that can cause this sort of self harm. For me it was unrequited love, it could be abandonment, abuse, guilt, longing, or a veritable pantheon of other hurts. Its sort of a more rational approach to suicidal feelings, and acceptable to the extent that it helps mitigate that unfortunate choice. But its heartwrenching to see it in some of the emo posts. There's a whole lot of hurting going on. And it seems that young people feel the pain so much more keenly. But over all, I think that external manifestation of
Inner pain is good. Like you say, its something you can do to keep the pain from taking over. And for me anyway, it led to some very good methods of dealing with mental pain, when I went through my second "lost love". I was older then and graduated to a more utilitarian means of "self mortification". I subjected myself to a strict diet and exercise regimen. It was physical pain that mitigated the mental pain, and after 2 years, I was better plus I was one buff-assed dude.
Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brothers to dwell together in unity!
Ps 133:1 NASB
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I think you're brave as a lion saying the little that you have said.
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