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Cameron
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Registered: January 2008
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There are several stories online I am quite fond of. It now appears that the authors might have abandoned them.
I know that the authors are not paid and have no obligation to complete the stories. I know that they don't "owe" their readers anything at all. I just really wanted to know how the stories end.
Perhaps it would be best if I didn't read a story until all the chapters are posted? Maybe I just get too wrapped up in the stories? It's been over a year on a couple of the stories and they are probably not ever going to be completed.
I will have to live without knowing what happened to Billy, Evan, Brian, Aaron and all the rest.
I need to get a life, eh? ;-D ;-D ;-D
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Cameron, I am guilty with one of my stories and the reason is the Muse just ran out on me. I have written 3600 words of the last part which I look at every so often in an attempt to get inspiration. Only another 12000 words to go.
However, with my other longer stories I aimed to make them episodic so that they would stand alone. I liken my stories to a soap opera on several levels or perhaps 'Last of the Summer Wine' anyway. I agree that if the story is working towards a definite end it shouldn't die out before it reaches it. The two options are either don't read it until it is complete, or don't offer it for publication until it is complete.
The counter argument is look at what we would have missed. 'Just Hit Send' comes to mind, except it is open ended and tending towards the episodic, especially towards the end, and so does not need a definite conclusion.
Hugs
Nigel
I dream of boys with big bulges in their trousers,
Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.
…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
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timmy
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Has no life at all |
Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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You should try and email the authors to encourage them
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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I very rarely even start stories that are unfinished - the main exception being stories being divided into books, where I'll happily read the completed books but not the unfinished one.
Over the years, a number of my favourite stories have been unfinished, with the authors disappearing from view and e-mails bouncing back ... it always leaves me with a nasty wondering if the authors are OK.
"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. ... Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night devoid of stars." Martin Luther King
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Yes, Cameron, I too have been frustrated to be cut off before I've got to the bottom of the page, so to speak. (
But what will happen to the excellent stories now on the web whose authors have lost interest or even died? How are they to be preserved? And how many are worth preserving?
For example there are stories by 'Driver' (who is dead) preserved by crvboy on the site:
http://www.storiesbydriver.net/
And very good indeed some of them are.
When I started to produce I-APL (a free educational APL interpreter) Romilly told me I was going in over my head and that I would still be supporting it five or ten years later. I laughed at him. He was right and the effort that began in 1986 would still be going strong. I was really saved by the development of ever faster computers that made I-APL (which was written to run under DOS) obsolete. (And by 'J' which in some ways superseded APL.)
So I want to ask Timmy, "How are the (best) things on iomfats to be preserved?" How many years do you feel happy to go on doing the work? What about megaman? What about the authors?
When something good has been created it would be sad to see it lost.
Love,
Anthony
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Cameron
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Toe is in the water |
Registered: January 2008
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Nigel, I really wasn't complaining, not seriously. I was just expressing a little disappointment. I know how it is to lose interest in a project, I imagine it is something like that, right?
Timmy, I have written to several writers. To compliment and encourage. Some do not answer, some are busy with their 'real' lives and one really told me off! BTW, He's not dead, either, Anthony. But, at the risk of getting chewed on again, we will leave it at that. He does not like being discussed, even nicely!
NW, I think you have the best idea. Stick to completed stories or works that stand alone.
I have also wondered what has happened to the vanished authors and if they are doing well.
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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This site will carry on for the foreseeable future. Of course, Megaman and I are going on holiday in June and we may both get written off by the same car wreck. That will be pretty final.
Assuming that does not happen he has the door keys and will do with them whatever he wishes, should I die.
Driver 9 is dead? I thought he had just been driven from the web and "helped to hide" by George Paul Bishop, known as Deacon, who certainly helped him to hide, and probably did the persecuting too. It is a pattern I saw later from the shit.
Still, he has twenty two and a half more years to serve in jail if he ever gets anywhere near underage kids again, so I very much doubt we will see him again. Not D9, Bishop.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Before long, Timmy, I will be convinced you are omniscient.
Do you know anything for sure about all this or is it fevered speculation from a gang of weirdos? I don't know how to tell.
On one site I found, it said Bishop was due for release in 2008. So presumably he has a suspended sentence.
Do you think Driver9 was/is a criminal paedophile?
Love,
Anthony
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timmy
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D9? I am sure he was precisely as he appeared. Normal appetites and a teller of decent stories. I liked some didn't like others. He and I never knew each other, though knew of each other. But we had no need to "meet".
Bishop is out on licence. If you care enough the Virginia State Police has a current mugshot and whereabouts. He caused a very great deal of hardship, including the raiding of another story site's server by the police.
I am sure he drove D9 into hiding because he, later, did that to another person. He also concocted a "cast of thousands" online to lure people into his web of deceit, and was an ominous and looming presence. He fooled many people, me included. And part of this was to try to destroy Dewald, among others.
But I have learned more about bizarre people. It takes a better person than he to fool me now.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Timmy, I find the whole thing amazing. Hard to believe but apparently true.
Here is a link to a site that seems to me to call for complete suspension of disbelief. After reading this I don't know what to believe. Knowing for sure that Bishop/Deacon is/was a crook helps a lot.
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/goschgannohuntertrublingtale05apr05.shtml
Love,
Anthony
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Cameron, I didn't view your comment as a complaint, but as an enquiry, which out of our responsibility to our readers deserved a reply.
Hugs
Nigel
I dream of boys with big bulges in their trousers,
Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.
…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
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I forgot, Timmy, to acknowledge my mistake. It appears D9 isn't dead, but when I saw the crvboy site I jumped to the wrong conclusion. Thank you for putting me straight.
Love,
Anthony
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timmy
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Has no life at all |
Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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Well, "crook" to me implies someone who gets away with cash. He videoed an allegedly willing minor boy in bondage gear but otherwise naked and it was alleged that he also committed the lesser crime of supplying alcohol to a minor.
He was, however, a man with a demeanour that led you to trust him while he behaved unpleasantly throughout the acquaintance.
The affair you mention is bizarre in the extreme, but better left off this board. It attracts all sorts of wackos and many genuine folk, too
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Cameron
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Toe is in the water |
Registered: January 2008
Messages: 70
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Anthony, timmy didn't tell you Driver isn't dead, I did.  But, that doesn't matter.
I think we should make it very clear that Driver is an honourable person that had nothing to do with that Bishop mess. It seems very wrong to have even the slightest hint of wrongdoing attached to his name, concerning that. Sometimes that is all someone will take from this thread.
I found him to be a very excellent author and an honourable person, if a bit sensitive. I would imagine he is tired of his name being used and abused in some way. I hope I have not contributed to that with this thread.
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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Cameron wrote:
> I think we should make it very clear that Driver is an honourable person that had nothing to do with that Bishop mess. It seems very wrong to have even the slightest hint of wrongdoing attached to his name, concerning that. Sometimes that is all someone will take from this thread.
I think you are confusing things a little. Bishop was very insistent that he had been "the key player" in helping D9 remove himself from the internet. This was a prior arena where Bishop/Deacon had been or said he had been involved.
That fact or quasi-fact does not imply anything about anyone's behaviour, ethics or morals except Bishop. And his statement that he helped Driver vanish was about a time prior to the mess he made of his own and other people's lives around the time he was jailed.
I cannot make any statement about the actual status of a person I do not know, but I assume D9 to have been a fine, open and honest person because I know nothing that has ever implied otherwise. I am unable to make it very clear as you ask, but nor have I any intention to cast doubt on the statement that you make.
There is one thing that is likely to happen, though. Every time something is mentioned about him here someone arrives from elsewhere and starts spouting rubbish about a very old situation that he misunderstood totally. It tends to get very heated, and is a swingeing attack on me for standing up and trying to protect Driver's copyright! We then end up in a circular argument where the fool refuses to understand simple English.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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