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timmy
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acam mentioned this in a way.
Beauty is by no means always sexually enticing.
That which is sexually enticing may not be beautiful.
Clothing often enhances sexual allure.
Clothed people can be beautiful.
Naked people are often not beautiful.
Somewhere in here is a sensible discussion.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Well, Timmy, it isn't the quantity but the type.
I imagine that most of us would find they were quickly comfortable on a nudist beach (even, or perhaps particularly if it were a gay one) but that then to be faced with someone wearing a costume out of the Koala range would be arousing, shall we say.
I remember swimming at Highgate ponds soon after I had discovered the "Le Jock" jockstraps which were made of shiny lycra and lived up the their slogan "The most comfortable Jock you'll ever wear". I had a bright red one.
The enclosure in those days was both for changing and naked sunbathing and when I got dressed to go home I noticed that I got quite a few glances and stimulated a few involuntary erections. Of course I put it on first and wasn't in a hurry to cover it up.
Regrettably Le Jock went out of business. There is a picture in Allkinks jockstrap locker room.
And I guess that is also the reason people buy mesh boxers and see-through briefs.
Love,
Anthony
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Macky
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I think both sexual alure and beauty are minor, when it comes to achieving what we all really want in our lives. Sure beauty is fun to look at and always grabs our attention. And thoughts of sex can get our blood racing. But our deepest emotional need is to be accepted and appreciated for what we really are. Clothes or absence of same have little to do with this. Beauty or absence of it is negligible. Sex can be a part of it, or not.
I think folks go wrong in looking for a 'perfect' match for themselves when seeking a partner. We don’t know what we want in a partner and our desires likely change over time. So I think that picking a partner can be a fairly simple affair. Pick out someone that you can make happy and who can make you happy. We often say that ‘we enjoy being with’ such a person.
This person that you pick is the raw material. He/she is a block of wood ready to be shaped. The tool you use to shape this raw material into your perfect partner is charity. Charity is putting up with your partners shit. This is work. Putting up with your partner’s shit is allowing them to be themselves, and changing yourself to be accepting of what they are. (Murderers abusers and addicts are extreme cases not germane to the general principle I am stating.)
We don’t fall in love, we build love. We build it though charitable acceptance and appreciation of each other. This requires maturity and the ability to recognize and accept responsibilities. It requires malleability; partners must continue to be accepting of changes in each other over time. This is the difference between ‘having sex’ and ‘making love’. Notice that the former expression uses a passive verb, while the latter expression uses an active verb. Making love is active work. Having sex is just 'going with the flow'. The great joy of a truly loving partner does not fall from the sky. It is the enjoyment of a job well done. But the job is never really done.
Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brothers to dwell together in unity!
Ps 133:1 NASB
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timmy
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Macky wrote:
> We don’t fall in love, we build love.
Bad luck. You may be right for you, but you aren't right for me. Love is the thing I have fallen in.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Macky
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You delude yourself. Nothing useful in life is achieved without effort.
[Updated on: Fri, 24 July 2009 15:23]
Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brothers to dwell together in unity!
Ps 133:1 NASB
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timmy
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You know I ran through a series of replies here. Most were one word. There were a few two word ones. I got to a four word one.
Then I thought that maybe that was beneath me, so I thought I'd ignore you. But that got me to thinking that you would think you were right.
So I discarded all previous ideas. All I can say is that I am sorry for you and your partner that you never fell in love. What a great shame. You have my sympathy.
Odd how this thread was about beauty. Great hijack.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Macky
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One must learn to love, and go through a good deal of suffering to get to it... and the journey is always towards the other soul.
D.H. Lawrence
Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brothers to dwell together in unity!
Ps 133:1 NASB
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Macky says you build love: Timmy says you fall in love. You are both right.
One can fall in love and one can build love and thus make a long term relationship possible. I have done both and I can't see why two yesses make any sort of a NO.
Macky - I doubt whether you are seriously suggesting that nobody falls in love. Surely the evidence is too strong even if it never happened to you (but DIDN'T it ever happen to you?
Timmy surely you aren't suggesting that the only possible long term relationship begins with the extraordinary emotional response called falling in love?
So, that's that and the hijack of the thread should be over.
Now does anyone else find jockstraps a sexual turn-on?
Let's get back to allure and little clothing!
Love,
Anthony
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timmy
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Believe what you like, quote whom you like. I'm still sorry for you.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Macky
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Anthony, you are a sweetheart. I guess what I'm really saying is that the 'falling' on day one is but a pittance of what can be had in year 21, provided the proper effort has been made.
As to jockstraps; being a sissy-boy, I've never worn one. But I think a guy looks better in briefs. It even seems odd to me that I feel that way.
Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brothers to dwell together in unity!
Ps 133:1 NASB
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Macky
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How odd that we should experience the same sentiment towards each other. At least it illustrates concern and caring.
Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brothers to dwell together in unity!
Ps 133:1 NASB
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Anthony wrote:
>Now does anyone else find jockstraps a sexual turn-on?<
Anthony, you know I do.
Hugs
Nigel
I dream of boys with big bulges in their trousers,
Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.
…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
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Yes, Nigel, we do have some failings in common. I rack my brains to find some acceptable way of exploiting the fact. The best I've done so far was to get Timmy to laugh! (So I think we know where that puts him!)
Love,
Anthony
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ray2x
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Clothing is a great many things and can do many things to a body. If you can picture me, I will be wearing a pair of short pants, a tee-shirt, white socks and some type of walking shoes. The pants highlight my legs which I am proud to show off with many years of walking and running and weights. Choose clothing which will show off at least some nakedness. Women can show off cleavage, men can show off legs or arms or roundness of butts or whatever.
Raymundo
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