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Diabetes - type 2  [message #58858] Fri, 25 September 2009 20:24 Go to next message
Nigel is currently offline  Nigel

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Timmy wrote:

>…the ridiculously large shock I had when I discovered I had acquired type 2 diabetes.<

I too was diagnosed with diabetes 2 two years ago. My reaction is not shock, but disbelief. I don't want to tempt fate, but after thorough examinations when taking part in a research study I tick one box - sugar in the blood - absolutely none of the others.

The doctors knew I had sugar in my blood (not in my urine though) for years, but didn't do anything about it until a government initiative paid GPs more for diagnosing it. I have tried arguing my case, but because I tick that one box I'm on a loser. I have been threatened with insulin use in five years' time.

With the headline of 1 in 6 NHS diagnoses are wrong in the newspapers this week my disbelief continues. I go along with 'treatment' just in case and of course I get priority treatment in certain other areas - flu jab, pneumonia vaccination for instance.

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N



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Re: Diabetes - type 2  [message #58859 is a reply to message #58858] Fri, 25 September 2009 20:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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I submitted to the diagnosis. It's a pest, but it's there. The bit I cannot understand is that being overweight switches it on, and slimming may control it, but nothing switches it off.

But I get free Cialis, and free prescriptions of all meds, so I'm not complaining.



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Re: Diabetes - type 2  [message #58865 is a reply to message #58859] Sat, 26 September 2009 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was diagnosed about two months ago. I sugar in my urine and a blood sugar level of 7.4 (don't know what the units are). I also had high cholesterol.

My doctor prescribed stuff and I went for further blood tests. The sugar went down to 6.9 and I was told to stop taking the diabetes medication.

A month ago I had further blood tests and the sugar was down to 6.5 and the cholesterol to 4.6. So I think both problems have gone away - but so have some of the perks such as free prescriptions!

Love Anthony
Re: Diabetes - type 2  [message #58870 is a reply to message #58865] Sat, 26 September 2009 22:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nigel is currently offline  Nigel

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Anthony, don't forget you qualify for free prescriptions at 60 anyway.

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Re: Diabetes - type 2  [message #58872 is a reply to message #58865] Sun, 27 September 2009 00:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Macky is currently offline  Macky

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I've been reading this diabetes stuff with interest. Do you suppose that taking the oral medication helps a person stop progression to a more serious type of diabetes, or even puts the disease in reverse? That seems to be Anthony's case. If so, then that's probably the reason for the doctor incentives to diagnose it. That would be a really well placed incentive. You guys are lucky to have that kind of health care. Here, if you have a health problem, the procedure is to suck you dry of your financial resources then dump you off at a homeless shelter on skid row. But we got you beat hands down in paper. We have so much paperwork for the simplest procedure that we send bales of it to Ireland to be processed. I suppose its the drug lobby and the insurance lobby and all the other lobbies paying researchers to prove that the skid row approach is the most humane. I just watched Michael Moore's "SICKO", so I'm thinking on this. Capitalism just doesn't work in the health care field.



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Re: Diabetes - type 2  [message #58874 is a reply to message #58865] Sun, 27 September 2009 05:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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acam wrote:

I was diagnosed about two months ago. I sugar in my urine and a blood sugar level of 7.4 (don't know what the units are). I also had high cholesterol. My doctor prescribed stuff and I went for further blood tests. The sugar went down to 6.9 and I was told to stop taking the diabetes medication. A month ago I had further blood tests and the sugar was down to 6.5 and the cholesterol to 4.6. So I think both problems have gone away - but so have some of the perks such as free prescriptions!

Here in Israel it seems that the criteria are much more strict. We use a different scale, but if I translate into the British scale the desired upper limit is 5.5. I do a home blood test once a month for a week and last time apart from one day the average was 4.1! A few days ago I did a blood test (for several things) in the clinic and my doctor forgot to remind me to be fasting. Even so my blood glucose level was 6.3, so the medication I'm taking must be doing its job.

It's very important for diabetics to keep their blood sugar under control because diabetes can (and often does) lead to other problems.

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Re: Diabetes - type 2  [message #58876 is a reply to message #58870] Sun, 27 September 2009 11:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not for Cialis or Levitra, Nigel. At least my doctor says not.

Love,
Anthony
Re: Diabetes - type 2  [message #58879 is a reply to message #58876] Sun, 27 September 2009 15:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Macky is currently offline  Macky

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Anthony, why do you buy this crap when it doesn't work? I might as well eat jelly beans as Cialis.



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Re: Diabetes - type 2  [message #58881 is a reply to message #58879] Sun, 27 September 2009 20:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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It works just fine for me and others for whom it works for. Seems that isn't you. Remember that it needs a sexual stimulus for it to work at all. Just staring at your dick ain't gonna do a thing.

In the UK diabetic men under medical treatment, not just diet, get these prescribed free. You get four shags per month.



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Re: Diabetes - type 2  [message #58883 is a reply to message #58881] Sun, 27 September 2009 22:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Macky is currently offline  Macky

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"Remember that it needs a sexual stimulus for it to work at all. Just staring at your dick ain't gonna do a thing."

Whaaa? Ah shit, you mean I have to exert physical stimulus to get an orgasm?

You're shittin' me, right?



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Re: Diabetes - type 2  [message #58884 is a reply to message #58879] Sun, 27 September 2009 22:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
acam is currently offline  acam

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Cialis and Levitra both 'work' on me, Macky, - that is to some extent.

Love,
Anthony
Re: Diabetes - type 2  [message #58885 is a reply to message #58872] Sun, 27 September 2009 22:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No, Macky, I seem to be able to stop the medication completely. Since I stopped (over a month ago) I haven't had any recurrence of the symptoms and the blood tests seem to show that the blood sugar and cholesterol have both continued to fall.

I wonder whether the next blood test will show a consistent trend.

Love,
Anthony
Re: Diabetes - type 2  [message #58890 is a reply to message #58883] Mon, 28 September 2009 10:51 Go to previous message
timmy

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The sexual stimulus is required to achieve an erection.

Lack of orgasm is a different matter altogether.



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