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Thoroughly odious - or just empty-headed vapidity?  [message #60185] Tue, 15 December 2009 14:32 Go to next message
NW is currently offline  NW

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This article http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/lifestyle/article-23783438-meet-the-gayjacents.do in London Evening Standard has been attracting a fair amount of criticism.

Yup, gay men are more acceptable in fashionable circles in Metropolitan areas than they were 30 years ago. But I can't take this piece as liberated - treating gay people like pets, fashion accessories or handbags when there's still such a long way to go in so many parts of the world seems inexcusable to me.

Oh, and I did comment on the piece - my comments weren't allowed through (and I thought I'd been fairly mild and rational ...).



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Re: Thoroughly odious - or just empty-headed vapidity?  [message #60186 is a reply to message #60185] Tue, 15 December 2009 14:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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It is empty headed, poorly written and not interesting enough for anyone really to read to the end.

What poor standards. Pun intended.



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Re: Thoroughly odious - or just empty-headed vapidity?  [message #60187 is a reply to message #60185] Tue, 15 December 2009 15:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Brody Levesque is currently offline  Brody Levesque

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Hmm, the comments were more interesting than the column itself, such as this example:

"grow up guys. liz hoggard has written a wholly gay-friendly article about a new term being used by marketers and in the u.s. gay community. and from what i can see, the piece is mainly about herself, complete with self mockery and lashings of irony. if you want to take it as some kind of homophobic, stereotyping rant then that says a lot more about you than it does about her.

- Charlie, London, uk"

Of course then the majority weighed in with sentiments such as this example:

"As a relatively straight woman with a male partner and lots of gay friends, I find your article unbelievably offensive. I have always chosen my friends because I like them, we get on and we care about each other. We have fun together and are there when we need each other. I have never chosen my friends because my coupled-up straight friends are too boring or because I need to get into the chic-est restaurant because I needed a hot female friend to pull the men in for me or for some other equally shallow reason.

It would be interesting if you wrote an article about how wonderful it is that is so much safer and socially acceptable for your friends to be who they are without worrying about losing their job or going to jail. It would be interesting if you wrote an article about what you and your friends are doing to protest the "Kill the Gays" bill in Uganda.

This piece of drivel reads like a bunch of tired stereotypes and while anger-inducing, is not interesting.

If I were your gay friends I would be quite hurt and very disappointed that the person I thought was my friend was actually only interested in me as a fashion accessory.

- Melanie, London"

I had to chuckle.... Of course at my age there's NO way in hell I'd ever be considered a fashionable accessory!
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Re: Thoroughly odious empty-headed vapidity  [message #60189 is a reply to message #60185] Tue, 15 December 2009 17:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, NW it is thoroughly odious and empty-headed. I've posted a rejoinder that being patronised like that is worse than being hated.

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Re: Thoroughly odious - or just empty-headed vapidity?  [message #60194 is a reply to message #60186] Tue, 15 December 2009 22:44 Go to previous message
Nigel is currently offline  Nigel

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You're right, Timmy. I couldn't read it to the end. It is so inconsequential.

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