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BBC to address portrayal of gays, bi's, lesbians.  [message #60658] Fri, 22 January 2010 22:15 Go to next message
NW is currently offline  NW

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I'm sure that it is sheer coincidence, and entirely unrelated to the total arses the BBC made of themselves over the Uganda issue, but they've decided to have a public consultation on how they protray LGB people (not Trans - that may come later).

I think it's important that anyone here who watches or listens to the BBC, or uses the BBC website, considers making a serious contribution to this consultation - online now at http://www.perceptor.com/perceplive/survey/bbc_lgb_portrayal/default.asp

I am still waiting for a response to my formal level 2 complaint about the "Should homosexuals face execution" headline on the subject of Uganda, though receipt has been formally acknowledged.



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Re: BBC to address portrayal of gays, bi's, lesbians.  [message #60661 is a reply to message #60658] Fri, 22 January 2010 22:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Coincidence? Perhaps. But just maybe all the complaints about their stupid headline had an effect. THanks for the link!

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Re: BBC to address portrayal of gays, bi's, lesbians.  [message #60675 is a reply to message #60658] Sat, 23 January 2010 09:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks, NW. I've completed the questionnaire.

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Re: BBC to address portrayal of gays, bi's, lesbians.  [message #60676 is a reply to message #60658] Sat, 23 January 2010 11:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The questions, and my own answers:

> How important is it to you that lesbian, gay and bisexual people are reflected on television, radio and the internet?

It is important that we are reflected with precision. We must be in due proportion to our occurrence in society, we must be all shades of behaviour, not just the camp queens, and we must be treated with the same respect that anyone else is treated. We are representation of a facet of normal society and we are in all cultures, creeds and ethnicities. We are captains of industry and we are manual labourers. We are as stupid and as wise, as law abiding and as criminal as any other part of society, and we must be portrayed as such.

> There are a variety of ways that the media affects the attitudes that people have towards those who are perhaps different to themselves.

> For example, some people may not know anyone who happens to be lesbian, gay or bisexual and the only time they may see or hear about them could be through broadcast media.

> Do you think the BBC has a responsibility to try and help challenge perceptions that may exist about lesbian, gay and bisexual people? If so, how?

Challenge? No. It has a responsibility to reflect life with accuracy. In doing this it has to reflect us as we are, and others as they are. Prejudices should be seen, but not reinforced. Seeing the prejudices challenges them anyway.

> Thinking about when you may have seen or heard lesbian, gay and bisexual people or characters on the BBC, how would you describe the overall view that is portrayed of them? Is it negative or positive or mixed?

> People can be portrayed in broadcast media in many different types of programmes, such as in news stories, documentaries and chat shows, and also as characters in fictional programmes such as comedy and drama.

> Thinking specifically about programmes you may have seen or heard on the BBC:
> Do you think the BBC broadcasts enough programmes that include stories about lesbian, gay or bisexual people, or characters, presenters or contributors who are lesbian, gay or bisexual?

I refer you to my answer about portrayal in due proportion to our occurrence in society. I think that does not yet happen.

> Do you think that some types of programmes do this better than other types?

In general gritty dramas handle this better.

> Do you think some broadcasters do this better than others?

I think all are as poor as the others

> What do you think about the portrayal of lesbian, gay and lesbian people on our news coverage?

Your news coverage shows bias, especially with the imbecilic poll on executing gay men in Uganda. You are very poor at seeing the real underlying picture and presenting it without bias

> Thinking about its portrayal of lesbian, gay and bisexual people across radio, television and online
> How well do you think the BBC does this?

Go and look at the imbecilic poll on executing gay men in Uganda. How well do YOU think you do this. You have appalling lapses of judgment and taste across all platforms, though you appear to try not to. When you get it wrong your apologies are watery and limp, and your complaint handling is dreadful

> Do you think that the way the BBC portrays these people in programmes is different for each of these individual groups: gay men, lesbians, bisexual men or bisexual women?

Lesbians tend to be portrayed as objects of male titillation. Bisexual men seem to me not to be portrayed at all, bisexual women are male titillation objects and gay men are a curiosity, for the most part.

And how about TRANSGENDERED folk? Where is the T in LGBT?

> The BBC is committed to delivering the highest editorial and ethical standards in its programmes and services.

> Part of the BBC's commitment is to ensure that it avoids offensive or stereotypical assumptions about people and that any descriptions about people or groups of people have a good reason to be included.
> What do you think about the language used by the BBC when it talks about lesbian, gay or bisexual people in its programmes? Is it appropriate?

In news programmes it is, broadly, appropriate. In dramas it is appropriate when it reflects the society in which the drama is set, but mostly we do not appear. In wildlife programmes the homosexuality of animals where it occurs is edited out. The great god Attenborough should be speaking of it because it occurs naturally

> What improvements, do you think the BBC could make in its portrayal of lesbian, gay and bisexual people?

I go right back to my first answer: We exist. Acknowledge it and treat us as normal people. We are. Cast as as goodies and baddies with equality and impunity. Do not make our homosexuality our bad attribute. The Gay Kray was gay and criminal, not a GAY criminal and not a criminal because he was gay.

> Is there anything else you want to tell us about the portrayal of lesbian, gay and bisexual people on the BBC?

I will keep banging the drum of equality. We are equal. You need to look at all programming and ensure that we appear in it as equal. We occur naturally, so make sure we appear so. And, while not stopping the idiot anti gay quips, how glad I am the Jonatjan Ross is going. I don't mind humour, but I do mind spiteful humour. Being gay is an orientation, not a smutty schoolboy joke.

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Re: BBC to address portrayal of gays, bi's, lesbians.  [message #60679 is a reply to message #60676] Sat, 23 January 2010 13:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nigel is currently offline  Nigel

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I think that is quite clear and concise, Timmy. Of course it will be ignored because you haven't given the smarmy, cosy answers they're looking for. I don't watch enough television to feel qualified to answer the questionnaire.

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icon12.gif Re: BBC to address portrayal of gays, bi's, lesbians.  [message #60681 is a reply to message #60679] Sat, 23 January 2010 15:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm sure it will be ignored, but they now have the chance to ignore it. Had I not answered the survey they would not have had that opportunity Smile



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Re: BBC to address portrayal of gays, bi's, lesbians.  [message #60689 is a reply to message #60679] Sat, 23 January 2010 20:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NW is currently offline  NW

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Nigel wrote:
> (snip) I don't watch enough television to feel qualified to answer the questionnaire.


Radio? Even if it's only one station. Or visits to the BBC website? I kinda think it's important that they get a wide range of audience perspectives.

I myself haven't watched any TV since the end of October ... my aerial cable needs fixed (a five-minute job) and I haven't got round to it yet! TV isn't high on my list of priorities ... though I get withdrawal symptoms if I don't get at least an hour a day of Radio 4.

NW



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Re: BBC to address portrayal of gays, bi's, lesbians.  [message #60690 is a reply to message #60689] Sat, 23 January 2010 20:59 Go to previous message
Nigel is currently offline  Nigel

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Sorry to be unhelpful. Now Terry Wogan has retired it's wall to wall Classic FM apart from R2 on Sunday evenings and BBC7 on three lunchtimes.

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