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Can they spy on kids at home? I agree that would be wrong.
But, surely they can do that at school because all the communications go through the school's network. When the children are at home their communications don't go near the school (I suppose).
Love,
Anthony
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Acam? With the proper software, Anybody could access a laptop or even a desktop equipped with a webcam & microphone from anywhere on the globe. [Its called Hacking] I'll note that this is more Tim's bailiwick as he is an expert in this field than mine. However, I have learned that the fact that the kid was at home made no difference and would not. The network access makes no difference.
Go watch M's Video again and then Google around for different commercially available surveillance software.
Oh and to further educate yourself, go visit majorgeeks.com or CNET to see what's available.
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Have you read 'Little Brother' by Cory Doctorov, Brody?
I don't think such surveillance is possible without the connivance or carelessness of the computer user. Of course if the school issues laptops with spyware built in it would be easy.
But you, for example, could not get to see what I am doing on this computer. I do my best not to make it easy and I believe it would be very difficult.
Tell me otherwise if you think I'm wrong.
Anthony
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I am going to preface the following remarks with this disclaimer so that everyone is clear okay? I am NOT a computer savvy 'power user.' I may be possibly slightly above average in terms of knowledge, but that's courtesy of my youngest son Sean, his boyfriend Chip, and my Ukrainian friend who assists with computer issues on my website and in general.
Now, having said all that Anthony, No, I have not read that book but the review of it on Amazon.com gave it a fair assessment so possibly I might. One day when I actually have time to do so.
As far as your other statement? Acam wrote:>"But you, for example, could not get to see what I am doing on this computer. I do my best not to make it easy and I believe it would be very difficult."
I hate to be the bearer of ill tidings Anthony, but unless you're as proficient as say timmy or his WebMaster Megaman, from the education I received exploring this issue, you are dead wrong.
Here's some of what I have had revealed to me and you should make a note of this along with everyone else who visits here at Tim's site.
Okay, Nikita showed me the following. For example, if you visit my website, he has installed a gizmo by a company called SiteMeter which tracks information. Here's an actual look at a visitor's statistics:
Brodys Notes and Scribbles
By Details > Visit Detail
Visit 7,516
[>>]
Domain Name covad.net ? (Network)
IP Address 68.166.238.# (Covad Communications)
ISP Covad Communications
Location
Continent : North America
Country : United States (Facts)
State : Massachusetts
City : Arlington
Lat/Long : 42.4161, -71.1612 (Map)
Language English (U.S.)
en-us
Operating System Microsoft WinXP
Browser Firefox
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1. Gecko/20100202 Firefox/3.5.8 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)
Javascript version 1.5
Monitor
Resolution : 1680 x 1050
Color Depth : 32 bits
Time of Visit Feb 20 2010 9:21:14 am
Last Page View Feb 20 2010 9:21:14 am
Visit Length 0 seconds
Page Views 1
Referring URL
Visit Entry Page http://brodylevesque.blogspot.com/
Visit Exit Page http://brodylevesque.blogspot.com/
Out Click
Time Zone UTC-5:00
Visitor's Time Feb 20 2010 9:21:14 am
Visit Number 7,516
Now, using this information on a very simple basis for example, you could take this-Lat/Long: 42.4161, -71.1612 and plug it into Google Earth and get a view within a few hundred yards of the actual location of this visitor's computer. Now, its not 100% accurate or even fool-proof but close enough to be scary.
[That is on a basic computer user level by the way and is far from sophisticated. However, I use this to illustrate just how much information is available if you take a look around.]
Now, could it be possible to actually get into your machine? Yes, here's this from a firm that specialises in INET privacy issues:
The text below might uniquely
identify you on the Internet
Your Internet connection's IP address is uniquely associated with the following "machine name":
.
The string of text above is known as your Internet connection's "reverse DNS." The end of the string is probably a domain name related to your ISP. This will be common to all customers of this ISP. But the beginning of the string uniquely identifies your Internet connection. The question is: Is the beginning of the string an "account ID" that is uniquely and permanently tied to you, or is it merely related to your current public IP address and thus subject to change?
The concern is that any web site can easily retrieve this unique "machine name" (just as we have) whenever you visit. It may be used to uniquely identify you on the Internet. In that way it's like a "supercookie" over which you have no control. You can not disable, delete, or change it. Due to the rapid erosion of online privacy, and the diminishing respect for the sanctity of the user, we wanted to make you aware of this possibility. Note also that reverse DNS may disclose your geographic location.
If the machine name shown above is only a version of the IP address, then there is less cause for concern because the name will change as, when, and if your Internet IP changes. But if the machine name is a fixed account ID assigned by your ISP, as is often the case, then it will follow you and not change when your IP address does change. It can be used to persistently identify you as long as you use this ISP.
There is no standard governing the format of these machine names, so this is not something we can automatically determine for you. If several of the numbers from your current IP address (76.73.18.50) appear in the machine name, then it is likely that the name is only related to the IP address and not to you. But you may wish to make a note of the machine name shown above and check back from time to time to see whether the name follows any changes to your IP address, or whether it, instead, follows you.
This is simply the next step up. Then the software gets more advance and more sophisticated and its not only just available to Governments either Anthony.
A Hacker,or government technician could determine your location at YOUR ISP and from there your MAC IP etc to get into your machine.
The unfortunate by-product of the War on Terror has been development of tracing & tracking software on levels that go far beyond what George Orwell ever envisioned...
Now, how does one combat these intrusions? Use of a VPN, Proxy switching software, and other commercially available encryption software. But be forewarned, its not all fool-proof. Also, the war on child porn has also made it simpler for governments to snoop without your knowledge or consent.
Finally, in the case of the article I wrote Anthony, those laptops were issued with that software installed along with a tracker device in case of theft not unlike the "LOJACK" anti-car theft devices. I have since discovered in the past 24 hour period, that the the Lower Merion School District is not the only school system in the U.S. to be guilty of such questionable behaviours.
So,in answer to; Acam wrote>:"Tell me otherwise if you think I'm wrong."
In a word? Yes.
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And that is the reason we state at the head of the forum that we do not have tracking software here.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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