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“I think Jesus was a compassionate, super-intelligent gay man who understood human problems,” he (Elton John) told Parade (magazine). “On the cross, he forgave the people who crucified him. Jesus wanted us to be loving and forgiving. I don’t know what makes people so cruel.”
So much for Christian sales of his music. Just proves that once a man achieves so much in life he doesn't need to repress his thoughts. Of course there is no proof that Jesus was gay. But in our modern times if a man was to hang out with a dozen men, wear long robes and attend afternoon wine parties he would at least be considered eccentric...and possibly gay.
Thank you for the laugh, Sir Elton...any thoughts on the Islamic Prophet?
Age appears to be best in four things; old wood best to burn, old wine to drink, old friends to trust, and old authors to read. (Sir Francis Bacon 1561-1626)
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Macky
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Hi Chris,
I read an article on this Elton John statement. It seemed to me that Mr. John was just simply making a factual statement of his beliefs. He was not out to embarrass the Christians or anything like that. He was not trying to be rude.
The subject of the sexuality of Jesus has been discussed a lot in these enlightened times. The first time I heard gay associated with Jesus was at a gay Bible study with a gay Roman Catholic Priest. (He was retired and a bit of a renegade who took it upon himself to minister to the gay community.)
Here's some links where the incidents mentioned are discussed in detail.
The naked youth who was scared up when Jesus was arrested in Gethsemene.
http://www.extremelysmart.com/insight/accurate/Mark_14_51-52.php
The blessing of the gay centurion's youthful lover.
http://www.gaychristian101.com/Gay-Centurion.html
It's fun stuff to consider, but truthfully with Jesus as with everyone else, labels are not very useful. I find it fun to think about sometimes, but really, was he or wasn't he...it really doesn't amount to a hill of beans unless one enjoys arguing with christian fundamentalists. Now that's sado-masochism at it's best.
Max
Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brothers to dwell together in unity!
Ps 133:1 NASB
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I agree Max, what caught my attention was the Catholic response which I should have included:
Not surprisingly, the red piano-toting star's comments didn't sit well with the Catholic League, the largest Catholic advocacy group in the country.
League President Bill Donohue went on the warpath, issuing the following statement: "Jesus was certainly compassionate, but to say he was 'super-intelligent' is to compare the son of God to a successful game-show contestant.
"More seriously, to call Jesus a homosexual is to label him a sexual deviant. But what else would we expect from a man who previously said, 'From my point of view, I would ban religion completely'
Banning religion in public life isn't a bad idea, after all deviant behavior ought to be something done only in privacy.
::-)
Age appears to be best in four things; old wood best to burn, old wine to drink, old friends to trust, and old authors to read. (Sir Francis Bacon 1561-1626)
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Thank you, Brody...glad you found this, I was looking for something like this to clarify the statement.
The issue always boils down to possession, and in it's response the Catholic spokesman says it pretty clear. The Church seems to feel they "own" the image and all thoughts or ideas of Jesus, it's their way or the highway. So someone like Sir Elton either conforms to their image of the Christ or he just needs to butt out.
I think it's no different with Islam, they feel possession of The Prophet and will try to kill you if you diss him. It's these feelings about a religion based upon worship of an individual that exemplify fanaticism.
Jesus was probably a nice guy, I admire people that work with their hands such as a carpenter, it's good for the soul. But every time someone goes all rad about the man as the son of God my mind flashes back to Monty Python and The Life of Brian.
OK, I'm a writer, I have a vivid imagination. But the story of Jesus is a bestseller that never leaves the reader disappointed, maybe just a little confused. It's my idea of a good mystery, wish I had thought of it.;-D
Age appears to be best in four things; old wood best to burn, old wine to drink, old friends to trust, and old authors to read. (Sir Francis Bacon 1561-1626)
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