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timmy
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Yes, you've seen the story about Father WIlliam Breslin's slinging out a kiddie from kindergarten because that child's parents are ~gasp~ a pair of lesbians!
But I bet you haven't seen his self serving, self hugging, selective doctrine spouting blog!
You ought to look, you really ought. It's linked from this commentary on it: http://tinyurl.com/yj4gals
[Updated on: Tue, 09 March 2010 11:37]
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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I wonder how many priests in the Catholic Church wake up one morning and feel they've chosen the wrong career?
I speak from personal knowledge here, I have a cousin who is a priest, although I don't treat him as such. He's a nice guy, polite to a fault and cares about those people he's come to know over the years.
And so it was with a mild shock when he retired from his parish duties rather quickly and moved himself across country. He lives in guest quarters at a parish, says his daily mass and yet will not participate in any other activities of the church.
Well...six months after he left came the disclosure of the sex abuse cover up in his former parish, his bishop was in the center of the controversy for that and some abuse of church funds. Mystery solved, now I know why my cousin left, he knew all about it and could do nothing.
He must have awakened one day and realized there was nothing he could do except leave his career of thirty years. Kind of like the accountant at Enron who understands that s**t is going to hit the fan and he'll go down with the others. Even soldiers in God's army face the reality of bad commanders, those who interpret gospel for their own agrandizement.
I have never discussed the issue with my cousin, instead I speak about his worldly travels, his yearly pilgramage to the Holy land. For even if he went to work for the wrong company, led by uncaring and hypocritical CEO's, my cousin is still a spiritual person.
I think in some ways he's come closer to what I think about organized religion. It puts an artificial layer between the beliver and their God, a controlling layer. Of course he still doesn't perceive the Creator as the Goddess I believe exists, he would think that a fantasy. But in my book raising the dead and floating off into the heavens is a bigger fantasy. Each to his own. 
Age appears to be best in four things; old wood best to burn, old wine to drink, old friends to trust, and old authors to read. (Sir Francis Bacon 1561-1626)
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timmy
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Chris James wrote:
> Well...six months after he left came the disclosure of the sex abuse cover up in his former parish, his bishop was in the center of the controversy for that and some abuse of church funds. Mystery solved, now I know why my cousin left, he knew all about it and could do nothing.
He could have gone to the police and lodged a formal complaint. That is what he could have done.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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timmy wrote:
He could have gone to the police and lodged a formal complaint. That is what he could have done.
Not sure about that. Don't RC priests take an oath of "poverty, obedience and chastity"? If he took his oath seriously he would have to obey the pope's command to observe silence, wouldn't he?
J F R
The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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timmy
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The vows cannot require you to break the law of the land. And it is by no means lawful to remain silent and not report a crime. It is particularly inappropriate to fail to report the abuse of a child because it allows the abuse to continue and continue and continue, and when one child is used up another will take its place. There is a plentiful supply of children in the church.
The Pope is above the law. He has and uses Diplomatic Immunity, but he instructs his minions to break the law by concealing abominations like child abuse.
Ignoring the theology, which is bizarre (glass of real blood, anyone?), the religion is unsavoury.
[Updated on: Tue, 09 March 2010 15:03]
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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I wonder what Georg Ratzinger, calls his brother: Joseph? Benedict? Your Holiness? Hey you? Bro?
An enquiring mind wants to know.
J F R
The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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... netscape.aol.com featured the following story earlioer this afternoon which I thought you might find of interest:
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/colorado-catholic-school-kicks-student-lesbian-mothers/story?id=10043528
This is interesting in of itself on two counts:
1) It's a good reporting of the facts with "positive" commentary. ABC, the TV Network is owned by The Disney Company which is controlled by "Evangelical" financial interest, and has been notably anti-gay.
2) The "Domain" hosting this particular ABC content you'll notice is the extant and defunct "go.com" web-portal which has not been seen for a very long, long, time. I knew it had been purchased by Disney some years ago; but nothing ever seemed to come of it. My "Usernames" were registered there (just as they continue to be at all of the major web-portals operating today) at the time of it's demise ... I wonder if my e-Mail accounts still work after all these years?
Warren C. E. Austin
The Gay Deceiver
Toronto, Canada
[Updated on: Tue, 09 March 2010 22:03]
"... comme recherché qu'un délice callipygian"
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I think you are correct. I know that if a teacher goes out of bounds with one of us and another teacher finds out about it they have like 20 minutes to call the cops.
Somebody told me the age of sexual consent in the Vatican City is 13. Good news for the pope and for all the choir boys I guess
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Were they in the HomoYouth together?
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CabinBoy wrote:
Were they in the HomoYouth together?
I don't think so. I think they were in the Hitler-Jugend together, though.
BTW, Welcome to the forum, CabinBoy. I look forward to reading more of your posts.
J F R
The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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Dear Timmy,
***Of course*** the vows can require you to break the law of the land. What are you thinking of?
Love,
Anthony
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Thank you for the welcome. I would write more but most of the things guys are writing about are things I have never heard about or things I do not know enough about to comment.
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CabinBoy wrote:
I would write more but most of the things guys are writing about are things I have never heard about or things I do not know enough about to comment.
Don't worry. Just post whenever and however you want. Much of the time we talk of unimportant things, anyway. Post about things that are important to you. Good luck with the digging.
J F R
The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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CabinBoy wrote:
>most of the things guys are writing about are things I have never heard about or things I do not know enough about to comment.<
Don't let that stop you, CabinBoy. I've never felt inhibited by it. Welcome here and btw, is your name Roger?
Hugs
Nigel
[Updated on: Fri, 12 March 2010 08:26]
I dream of boys with big bulges in their trousers,
Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.
…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
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