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What is there about a man besides his body?  [message #61243] Tue, 09 March 2010 22:36 Go to next message
Macky is currently offline  Macky

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OK, so I have been guy watching.

Last week, I posted about how I would like to see authors describe a character's hair. I know that sounded as gay as fuck, but for me, Hair can be a big plus to a person's appearance.

That got me to thinking about things that make a man attractive that have nothing to do with his bodily attributes. I wonder if anyone could add to this list.

1. Manner of carrying himself. Please, no troll trudge! I like a nice lilting, ever so slightly effeminate walk.

2. Kindness. This is a super big turn on for me. If I see someone go out of their way to try to make someone else feel at home, well, I like that in a guy.

3. Toilet. How he shaves, trims, combs, clips. Maybe I'm weird, but I really notice if a guy is concerned with keeping his body neat and tidy. I guess a nice cologne can be part of this. Too much artificial scent either from cologne or deoderant can detract. A little earthiness is good. Farting is straight out, although nefarious inaudible farting can be cute.

4. Smile. A smile is like spending a week with someone and getting to know a lot about them. Silly smile, kind smile, friendly smile, sexy smile. I see a guy smile and I feel that I know him. I guess I find smiles to be a sort of free and easy intimacy. I really do.

5. Clothes. A guy who knows how to dress himself...or if he has a partner who knows. You just have to notice a guy who is dressed to accent his good points and to draw attention away from his bad ones.

Can you think of any more sorta non-physical things that make a guy more appealing?

Max



Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brothers to dwell together in unity!
Ps 133:1 NASB
Re: What is there about a man besides his body?  [message #61249 is a reply to message #61243] Wed, 10 March 2010 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
acam is currently offline  acam

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Well, Macky, surely the most important thing is what he says and what he thinks and what he writes, especially if what he does is to tell the truth about himself and other people.

It is, after all, only words that distinguish men from the other animals.

Have you ever been impressed by someone that doesn't appear to have opinions? People with nothing to say **could** be hiding a lot of light under a bushel but mostly, deep down, at rock bottom, they're shallow.

Love,
Anthony
Re: What is there about a man besides his body?  [message #61250 is a reply to message #61249] Wed, 10 March 2010 11:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nigel is currently offline  Nigel

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Anthony wrote:
>mostly, deep down, at rock bottom, they're shallow<

Tut, Anthony. King of the oxymoron?

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Nigel



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Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.

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Re: What is there about a man besides his body?  [message #61251 is a reply to message #61250] Wed, 10 March 2010 12:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
acam is currently offline  acam

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Nigel, I'm surprised at you. It isn't an oxymoron and BTW it was ajoke.
The original is in a book by Peter de Vries, I think, who also coined the wonderful remark "Winter sports leave me cold."

Love,
Anthony
Re: What is there about a man besides his body?  [message #61252 is a reply to message #61249] Wed, 10 March 2010 14:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Macky is currently offline  Macky

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Anthony,

Would you call this characteristic 'intelligence'?

I think intelligence is a good one. I like intelligence. I hope I'm not to stupid to recognize it.

But then there's bravery...I don't know if I admire that. There are so many different things that people call bravery. I really need to think about that one.

BTW...I love your oxymoron...deep down they're shallow....that's funny. I'm glad Nigel pointed that out to e or I'd have missed it.

Max



Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brothers to dwell together in unity!
Ps 133:1 NASB
Re: What is there about a man besides his body?  [message #61253 is a reply to message #61250] Wed, 10 March 2010 14:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Macky is currently offline  Macky

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Nigel,

I'm having a personal dilemma. In my original post here I said;

"Last week, I posted about how I would like to see authors describe a character's hair. I know that sounded as gay as fuck"

Have I used the word "gay" in the pejorative sense that is becoming ever more common nowadays? I don't think it's like "That's so gay", is it?

I used the term in a more concrete way as my style of discussing the matter would be one one might have expected from a person who was stereotypically gay. And more and more, I have been using repeated words and phrases in sentences. Perhaps I am coming down with some sort of poor usage syndrome. Do you think I should visit a grammarian?

Max

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For brothers to dwell together in unity!
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Re: What is there about a man besides his body?  [message #61254 is a reply to message #61253] Wed, 10 March 2010 16:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nigel is currently offline  Nigel

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I'm sorry, Max, but you have just leant two shovels together and told me to take my pick. I'm confused.

I don't know whether you're coming down with poor usage syndrome or not, but a grammarian will only tell you how to put the words together correctly and in the right grammatical form. He might be straying outside his remit even to advise you on style. You need an expert on the use of words and their meanings, perhaps a lexiconographer.

The use of 'gay' in its pejorative sense has not become part of my personal vocabulary although I think I did use it once in a story, but as a piss-take (caricature) of someone who does use it in that sense.

When you said describing hair was "as gay as fuck", I took it in the homosexual sense. For me the usage was confused by adding 'as fuck', which was firstly redundant and secondly, if you take 'fuck' as referring to coïtus between male and female, inept.

I trust I have been of help.

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Nigel



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Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.

…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
Re: What is there about a man besides his body?  [message #61258 is a reply to message #61254] Thu, 11 March 2010 04:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aussie is currently offline  Aussie

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Hell's bells Nigel now you have me confused. Why did you put your pick with Max's two shovels? Are you going gold mining or what?

Aussie :-/
Re: What is there about a man besides his body?  [message #61267 is a reply to message #61252] Thu, 11 March 2010 13:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
acam is currently offline  acam

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No, Macky, it wasn't because speech shows intelligence that I brought it up. It was because through talking to people you can find out a lot about their character.

Non-speaking animals can't tell you what they think or feel, can't make promises or express hopes or wishes and although they *can* lead you to trust them that trust is very limited.

I think we may focus too much on the way people look and not enough on what is between their ears - not that I'm belittling your wish to find out who likes hair and thinks it's more important than ear size or nose shape!

Love,
Anthony
Re: What is there about a man besides his body?  [message #61269 is a reply to message #61267] Thu, 11 March 2010 14:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aussie is currently offline  Aussie

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Anthony, you said "Non-speaking animals can't tell you what they think or feel, can't make promises or express hopes or wishes and although they *can* lead you to trust them that trust is very limited."
Do you mean all animals are non speaking?
My daughter has a Doberman and by her actions can very easily convey what her hopes and wishes are. I am sure the same can be said for a lot of other animals.
Just a small point

Aussie
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Re: What is there about a man besides his body?  [message #61284 is a reply to message #61243] Fri, 12 March 2010 02:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CabinBoy is currently offline  CabinBoy

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I think how a boy smiles at me is the best thing about him. I think you can tell a lot about some guy by the way he cares for his teeth. That and being clean.

I like to talk with other guys who can speak well and not like they are off some droid twitter ship from space.
Re: What is there about a man besides his body?  [message #61294 is a reply to message #61243] Fri, 12 March 2010 11:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael-Kent Dobison is currently offline  Michael-Kent Dobison

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I would have to agree with CabinBoy... Its all in the smile for me... and the eyes, or at least eye movements. Guys with shifty eyes freak me out.
I just can not seem to pin what a guy is thinking or what he is about if he has shifty eyes.

I think that they way guys treat other people can also be a huge factor of attraction. Like already mentioned, kindness is a 'kicker'

As for hair... OMG... don't even get me started on that one. I love hair and since I don't really have any of my own left most of the guys I tend to look at have longer hair.



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"What a stupid Lamb"
"What a sick, masochistic lion"
Definitely, first and foremost, the eyes ...  [message #61299 is a reply to message #61294] Fri, 12 March 2010 17:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Gay Deceiver is currently offline  The Gay Deceiver

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... and the smile. Both will stop me in my tracks.

Once stopped, their greeting. A welcoming handshake is always nice, giving you the opportunity to assess them for its' strength and purpose and for their grooming. Hands speak volumes about a person's personal hygiene, as do hugs. I am really, really, big on hugs.

Macky earlier mentions gait. Hot damn, but I'm so down with a "knuckle-dragger". One comes along, I'll wet my pants in anticipation; and if he should happen to smile at me with the least glimmer in his eyes as he reaches out to either shake my hand or hug me, Lordy if I were only 30-years younger, he wouldn't have to push my belly-button even once before I'd be flat on my back, heels over my head, like a bitch in heat.

Warren C. E. Austin
The Gay Deceiver
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[Updated on: Fri, 12 March 2010 17:45]




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A belated "Welcome"  [message #61301 is a reply to message #61284] Fri, 12 March 2010 17:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Gay Deceiver is currently offline  The Gay Deceiver

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I don't recall seeing anything, so I'm suggesting that you open a new thread, introduce yourself to all of us here, then we can all make nice, with suitable welcoming noises and such.

Warren C. E. Austin
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Re: What is there about a man besides his body?  [message #61309 is a reply to message #61284] Fri, 12 March 2010 19:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Macky is currently offline  Macky

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Oh yeah! The teeth! Og so important. Bad dental hygiene can cancel out oh so many positive characteristics.

BTW Welcome! So why do you call yourself Cabinboy?

Max



Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brothers to dwell together in unity!
Ps 133:1 NASB
Re: What is there about a man besides his body?  [message #61310 is a reply to message #61294] Fri, 12 March 2010 19:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Macky is currently offline  Macky

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Hi Michael!

Yes, I've heard it before that eyes speak volumes about a person. But eyes do not work for me. Can you illucidate on how eyes communicate. I think I mostly don't look at eyes: a quick glance at most to check out color. So what else can you do with eyes? How do they convey information?

About hair...why don't you procure yourself some? I think sometimes little things we do for ourselves like that make a big difference in how we feel about ourselves. And how attractive you are to others is in large part an outcome of how we see ourselves. Don't feel that you are being dishonestOr vain by getting hair. I see it as something we can do for ourselves. BTW I own a wig. Still have a head of hair, but I got it many years ago for the body and other attributes that my natural hair lacked. A caution: you don't want to skimp on wig quality, and one custom made by a pro can be quite expensive.

Max



Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brothers to dwell together in unity!
Ps 133:1 NASB
Re: Definitely, first and foremost, the eyes ...  [message #61312 is a reply to message #61299] Fri, 12 March 2010 19:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Macky is currently offline  Macky

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Hugs and handshakes!

These things don't work well for me. I'm a wooden hugger and always forget a firm grip in handshaking. So I tend not to notice or value these things in others like many people do. I love the concept of a touchy-feely personality, but I am uncomfortable with it in the flesh. I am much more relaxed in bed than during a handshake or hug...go figure.

I wonder if this thread should be coMpiled into a guide for meeting men on favorable terms and posted on the site. Young guys might not realize this stuff: then again they just might be more cognizant of this stuff than we are.
Max



Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brothers to dwell together in unity!
Ps 133:1 NASB
Re: What is there about a man besides his body?  [message #61327 is a reply to message #61310] Sat, 13 March 2010 07:04 Go to previous message
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Ok...this is difficult to explain but I'll call it strength of character. A man doesn't need to be the strongest in muscle to be strong, nor does he need to be the most handsome to be handsome. They have a strong moral sense of right and wrong. Maybe they would be a bit on the quiet and shy side but also comfortable in groups.
I hope I did a good job in explaining this character.



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