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Would you consider this "higher education?"  [message #61272] Thu, 11 March 2010 16:31 Go to next message
chrisjames147 is currently offline  chrisjames147

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And once again it's prom season, except in rural Mississippi. If I had the power I would shut off all Federal funding to the state schools and force the administrators of all their school systems to get re-educated by the ACLU and gay organizations. This action just screams for a class action lawsuit in a Federal Court.

Draconian solution, sure it is. But even though those people in charge are living in the 19th century their students are not. There is nothing moral or practical about canceling the prom for these students. Canceling pay raises for school administrators who backed this decision is a moral imperitive.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_lesbian_prom_date

[Updated on: Thu, 11 March 2010 16:32]




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Re: Would you consider this "higher education?"  [message #61273 is a reply to message #61272] Thu, 11 March 2010 16:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> Draconian solution, sure it is.

I'm not sure I would call this a solution, rather punishment. The law won't allow them to punish her so they strike out at all of the students in hopes that some of them will do it for them. They simply can't allow people to be themselves, you have to live according to THEIR values.
Re: Would you consider this "higher education?"  [message #61276 is a reply to message #61272] Thu, 11 March 2010 18:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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School proms are outside my experience, but, if they are to be held, I see every reason why non heterosexual couples should be welcomed.

In this instance aren't we speaking of Redneck Hicksville, USA? If so we might ask whether we are surprised.

There is a bizarre justice in cancelling the entire event if there was to be discrimination, but what a stupid and pointless gesture it is to have cancelled it.



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Re: Would you consider this "higher education?"  [message #61282 is a reply to message #61272] Fri, 12 March 2010 02:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CabinBoy is currently offline  CabinBoy

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In my high school you can bring anyone you want to the prom.
Re: Would you consider this "higher education?"  [message #61297 is a reply to message #61282] Fri, 12 March 2010 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chrisjames147 is currently offline  chrisjames147

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I remember the good old days when the biggest problem at proms were the guys who would sneak off to the parking lot to have a drink, or the girls who wore their skirts too short. I imagine the latter may have been the cause of the former, don't know, gay men aren't affected by such things.

Most times proms are held for seniors, the majority of them over the age of eighteen and therefore considerd adults in the US. Into this jumps a bunch of religious homophobic fascists whose main concern is that two adults might be not their kind of people.

The laws governing homosexuality have been banished from the bedroom, what's left are those that apply to minors and the age of consent. So when two consenting adults want to attend a tax payer supported event and are opposed by those in charge I want heads to roll.

Now everyone rolls their eyes and says..."It's Mississippi, what do you expect?" I expect there will be lawsuits that will cost that county a great deal in a time of poor economics. Will the county schools have to lay off teachers to cover the expense? Now there's the crime, not two girls who want to dance together with their friends.

It's about time Mississippi pulled its head out of its ass and realizes they are in the real world, not some backwoods redneck version of life. I think a federal judge ought to take a look at this case, seems like some civil rights were violated here. Won't be the first time Mississippi has been accused of that, they wrote the book on injustice. >Sad



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Re: Would you consider this "higher education?"  [message #61328 is a reply to message #61297] Sat, 13 March 2010 07:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I liked my proms. Proms made us feel so mature. And proms gave me and my friends a great time to be just high school students.
At my senior prom, I asked my date if she would prefer to eat a breakfast after the prom dance instead of a dinner before the prom. She wanted to have the dinner. I paniced because the dinner would cost more than what I had budgeted, but I somehow came up with the money and made a reservation at a fancy smancy restaurant. She hardly ate any of her dinner. So later on after the dance, she was hungry so we ate breakfast.
Women!!:-/



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Re: Would you consider this "higher education?"  [message #61826 is a reply to message #61272] Tue, 06 April 2010 07:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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The prom happened.

They decided that she was not welcome so sent her to a different event with the other kids that no-one wanted to be around, chaperoned by the school principal, who was thus complicit in the renewed bullying.

http://tinyurl.com/yls4ry5

Yahoo (etc) news is never worth linking to, by the way. The item has expired, just like this pointless school and it's childish parents and the prom



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What bothers me about these situations ...  [message #61830 is a reply to message #61272] Tue, 06 April 2010 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Gay Deceiver is currently offline  The Gay Deceiver

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... is that they are an abuse of both lay and secular power affecting a microcosm within a larger society that has neither the political capital nor the religious clout to hinder them; and because of this, those in "authority" get away with it; and at one and the same time foster a belief in those affected, that this just, fair, and represents good citizenship where discriminatory behaviours are perfectly alright if you're the one calling the tune, and are paying for it.

Decisions such as those taken recently in the two semi-rural communities in Mississippi of course don't take into account the downstream effects of such actions, either psychologically or physically on the victims.

On the other hand, what makes this abuse of our youngsters acceptable to us, and any different from the abuse we are railing against in other quarters?

Warren C. E. Austin
The Gay Deceiver
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"... comme recherché qu'un délice callipygian"
Facebook page created by gay teen's high school peers ...  [message #61870 is a reply to message #61826] Fri, 09 April 2010 08:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Gay Deceiver is currently offline  The Gay Deceiver

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... was erected shortly after their alternative "Prom" was held; this being the one she wasn't invited to; this according to an article appearing at advocate.com this morning:

Anti-Constance Facebook Page Ruffles Feathers

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/04/08/Anti_Constance_Facebook_Page_Ruffles_Feathers/


Go here for the page at Facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Constance-quit-yer-cryin/367776042862?ref=ts


I'm not just disgusted; I'm thinking appalled would be a better word.

If I wasn't so concerned about security concerns in using Facebook (their Privacy and Security policies are abysmal at best) I might, this time around, have actually logged-in to the Facebook account I never, ever, use and express my abhorrance of the comtemptable behaviour.

Warren C. E. Austin
The Gay Deceiver
Toronto, Canada

[Updated on: Fri, 09 April 2010 08:25]




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Re: Facebook page created by gay teen's high school peers ..  [message #61871 is a reply to message #61870] Fri, 09 April 2010 08:25 Go to previous message
timmy

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Actually all you have to do is hit the "Report" link on the page, whcih I have done. I hope others will too.



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