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Gay father of twins born to Indian surrogate....  [message #62390] Sun, 16 May 2010 11:23 Go to next message
timmy

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Gay father of twins born to Indian surrogate denied permission to bring his sons home

Please have a look at this article: http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/gay-father-of-twins-born-to-indian-surrogate-denied-permission-to-bring-his-sons-home-1.289128

Sad and inhumane.



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Re: Gay father of twins born to Indian surrogate....  [message #62393 is a reply to message #62390] Sun, 16 May 2010 13:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There is an upsurge of anger, and demonstrations have been (and will be) held outside the judge's house and outside his courtroom.

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Movement, at last!  [message #62394 is a reply to message #62390] Sun, 16 May 2010 14:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3890325,00.html

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The Impasse Broken  [message #62417 is a reply to message #62390] Tue, 18 May 2010 03:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3890987,00.html

They should be home within three weeks. But why not today? Yesterday? Last week? Last month?

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Re: The Impasse Broken  [message #62422 is a reply to message #62417] Tue, 18 May 2010 06:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can Judge Marcus be dismissed over this?



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Re: The Impasse Broken  [message #62423 is a reply to message #62422] Tue, 18 May 2010 08:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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timmy wrote:

Can Judge Marcus be dismissed over this?

I very much doubt it. But there is a sign-up on Facebook (in Hebrew, I'm afraid) demanding that he "be resigned" (my bad translation of an Israeli quip). I suspect that as soon as the babies and their father are back home it will all be forgotten. Until the next time.

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Re: The Impasse Broken  [message #62424 is a reply to message #62423] Tue, 18 May 2010 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wonder. This story will be dear to YGL's heart, I think, and he may choose to use JOH resources to pursue it?



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They're Home!!! At long last!  [message #62511 is a reply to message #62390] Fri, 28 May 2010 06:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Good luck to Dan and Arnon and their twin sons.

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I couldn't find any reference to this in the English-speaking press, so I have translated an article from a Hebrew-language newspaper.
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"There is nothing to cry about, we won." This is what Dan Goldberg and his partner Arnon Angel said when they touched down in Ben-Gurion Airport. The couple arrived with the twins, Itai and Liron, three months old, after they had been held up in India for two and one half months because of the decision of a judge that prevented doing a paternity test - and thus bringin the twins here.

Family, friends and representatives of the Gay community, armed with placards, balloons and bottles of champagne, waited for them at the airport. Two musicians accompanied the reception and played "Shalom Aleykhem" when the family appeared.

Since the twins were born to an Indian surrogate mother Goldberg was in Mumbai with his children, waiting for them to receive Israeli citizenship. This was dependent on a DNA paternity test - a procedure that has been done dozens of times in the past, on the instruction of Israeli courts. Yesterday afternoon representatives of the Goldberg family presented to the Ministry of the Interior the results of the paternity test, which confirmed that Dan is the father. The Ministry of the Interior authorized the consulate in Mumbai to register the children as Israeli citizens and to issue passports.

"There is nothing like being in Israel; we have waited for this moment a long while," said Angel. "It can be summed up in one word: we won. No one succeeded in stopping us. It was a long, difficult, time, but we are 'mad' about the Land of Israel and the State of Israel. This is our home, here our children must grow up and be educated and they will be model citizens. All these months were unnecessary; we are talking about two enchanting children. There was no need for a paternity test: there are a thousand proofs that they are ours," he said.

When he was asked how he viewed the State of Israel in the light of the incident he replied, "Israel is not an unenlightened country. There was just "an accident" on the way. We happened to get an inappropriate judge. But maybe there is a silver lining: this could be a message to judges, to the authorities and to the State: it's no big deal! We are citizens of Israel and we have served the State loads of years. We still can't understand what all the fuss is about."

Dan Goldberg described his feelings on being home: "We are tired, but it was a wonderful flight. The children slept all through it. We are very emotional, it's a pleasure to be home. I missed the grandmas' cooking, our room, our bed." He said that their plans for the next few days are "to rest, watch TV, and already on Sunday we have made an appointment with the Newborns' Clinic."

[Updated on: Fri, 28 May 2010 07:17]




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Re: They're Home!!! At long last!  [message #62514 is a reply to message #62511] Fri, 28 May 2010 08:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yay!

Now, what can be done about that judge?



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Re: They're Home!!! At long last!  [message #62583 is a reply to message #62514] Thu, 03 June 2010 14:18 Go to previous message
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timmy wrote:

Yay! Now, what can be done about that judge?

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/gay-rights-group-alleges-discrimination-protests-against-judge-who-wouldn-t-let-twins-into-israel-1.293847

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