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icon9.gif Why Fighting The Good Fight Matters......  [message #62449] Thu, 20 May 2010 20:18 Go to next message
Brody Levesque is currently offline  Brody Levesque

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Re: Why Fighting The Good Fight Matters......  [message #62462 is a reply to message #62449] Sat, 22 May 2010 05:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ray2x is currently offline  ray2x

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Thank you Brody.



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Re: Why Fighting The Good Fight Matters......  [message #62464 is a reply to message #62449] Sat, 22 May 2010 19:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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I've only just watched this. And many things strike me about it. One of them is the abuse, another is that some abuse is quite quiet, subtle, insidious.

We have just had good friends to stay for a week. I am not out to them, it would trouble them. So I choose to listen to mild abuse and ignore it. This is an area where confrontation would not be useful.

We have a wonderful local tearoom, run by two gentlemen who are as camp as a row of tents. Our friend wondered if all the staff were 'that way'. I just said how wonderful it was that they'd been together for 23 years. I can be subtle too.

It does hurt, but I choose to allow abuse from a very few of my friends. I'm used to it. I'll counter it with subtlety, not force.



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Re: Why Fighting The Good Fight Matters......  [message #62468 is a reply to message #62464] Sun, 23 May 2010 06:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ray2x is currently offline  ray2x

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Having battled the front lines in taking many disabled adults into community settings, I would say the subtle looks are the hardest to take. It's easier to argue with loudmouth types, but a person who communicates with body language is not easy to argue with. I've introduce myself as a teacher and as the teacher who wants to integrate disabled students into the community, to any person who takes umbridge with my students. My students have engaged in community integration nonetheless, with grace and strength in most cases.



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Re: Why Fighting The Good Fight Matters......  [message #62470 is a reply to message #62468] Sun, 23 May 2010 07:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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I agree. The subtle items are almost impossible to argue with unless one provokes a row. One is seen as the aggressor.

I think, too, that a good few generations of us were raised by our parents to 'pity' those with any form of disability and to avoid those with mental or intellectual disabilities. It did not help that so many were incarcerated in what were then termed Lunatic Asylums.

I have had to learn not to react poorly to disabled folk. I was brought up but poor reactors.

Equally I have had to learn not to react poorly to those with obvious racial differences. This was probably not helped by the kid who broke my nose when I was eight. He was Nigerian. Though not Jewish I was raised in an anti semitic environment in school. Those ingrained prejudices had to be overcome. I was raised to be homophobic, too.

I know this is not about me. I am using me as an example.

I cannot in all honesty say that I am unprejudiced against all sections of our community. I try to be. Sometimes the attempt to be so overcompensates, too. I wonder of that is some of the root cause of Political Correctness?



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Re: Why Fighting The Good Fight Matters......  [message #62486 is a reply to message #62470] Tue, 25 May 2010 04:31 Go to previous message
ray2x is currently offline  ray2x

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I've known a few handicapped people who could take others to task. And I mean in a mean way.



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