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icon5.gif Some closets are deeper than others...  [message #63377] Thu, 26 August 2010 12:10 Go to next message
chrisjames147 is currently offline  chrisjames147

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I'm not really sure how I feel about this. Ken Mehlman, staunch member of the George W. Bush camp has now come out as gay. I have provided a basic link below but for an in depth look and analysis I urge you to go seek out Brody's Blog site.

Mehlman was Bush's campaign manager in 2004, and Chairman of the Republican National Committee. His time at the top of the American political structure coincided with the push against gay marriage and other damning evidence that the Republicans were anti-gay.

When you stand in crap and smell like crap how easy is it for you to bathe and claim you just didn't understand yourself at the time? Gay is not a suit coat you put on at some point in life and claim to be a well dressed man. There are many cases of individuals that rail and rant against gay issues only to hide ther own sexuality.

Mehlman was the enemy, one of the homophobic elite in America driven by the fanaticism of Dick Cheney and Karl Rove. Unfortunately Mehlman still defends those in the Bush administration claiming they were not homophobic. In doing so he is still standing in that pile of crap.

I don't object to him being gay, I just don't see his coming out as redemptive. Where were you when we needed you, Ken? Selling your soul to stay in the closet? The future will tell us what kind of man he is. Saying "I am gay" is not enough for me to embrace him within the community of men who were oppressed by his former masters. Ken has a lot of public bathing to do to wash off that stink.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38857056/ns/politics?gt1=43001



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icon13.gif Re: The Douchenozzle/Quisling/Arse  [message #63378 is a reply to message #63377] Thu, 26 August 2010 12:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Brody Levesque is currently offline  Brody Levesque

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I can't begin to adequately describe the incredible harm this piece of shit has done to the LGBT community. However, Joe Jervis has done a yeoman's job of reporting on this treacherous filth on his blogspot here: [ http://www.joemygod.blogspot.com/ ]

I have only this to say to this flotsam of feces:
The source article regarding commentary ...  [message #63381 is a reply to message #63377] Thu, 26 August 2010 21:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Gay Deceiver is currently offline  The Gay Deceiver

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... on this story will be found here:

Published by The Atlantic Monthly, Aug 25 2010, 5:45 PM ET

Bush Campaign Chief and Former RNC Chair Ken Mehlman: I'm Gay

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/08/bush-campaign-chief-and-former-rnc-chair-ken-mehlman-im-gay/62065/

I suggest everyone read it before considering any reply.

Warren C. E. Austin
The Gay Deceiver
Toronto, Canada



"... comme recherché qu'un délice callipygian"
icon13.gif Re: The source article regarding commentary ...  [message #63382 is a reply to message #63381] Thu, 26 August 2010 22:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Brody Levesque is currently offline  Brody Levesque

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Sorry Warren but you're off base on this one, this jackass fiddled while Rome [the LGBT community] burned, In a word? Bullshit! He deserves nada, zip, zero, by way of forgiveness or understanding. How many LGBT Teens died by their own hands? How many Gay & lesbian couples were/are forced to live without full equality? How many good & decent Gays & Lesbians have been forced out of the US Armed Forces?

What did he do!!!!!!!!!!!

He did NOTHING! Not a fucking thing. He comes as a johnny come lately? Oh please. This clown was the chair of the RNC, he directed the reelection campaign of one of the most homophobic U. S. Presidents' on record.

No Warren,he has blood on his hands, screw him.

[Updated on: Thu, 26 August 2010 22:45]

Well, Brody, I'm heartened to see ...  [message #63383 is a reply to message #63382] Fri, 27 August 2010 00:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Gay Deceiver is currently offline  The Gay Deceiver

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... that, LOL, you certainly don't mince your words.

Unfortunately, I don't happen to agree with your position, and that of others, in the vehement denouncing of this man.

You, and I, both know of far too many good, and worthy men, and this one may very well be one of them, who, because of the circumstances of their position, however they may have been vocal (and oftentimes intransigent) in their support of social injustice "behind closed doors" (and LGBT issues are just one of many of these) in the corridors of power, WERE REQUIRED to toe the party line or perish, never again to live another day to fight the good fight.

That Ken Mehlman is no-longer at the helm of the RNC, and IS NOW WILLING to step forward and tell it like it really was, AND IS, and now hopefully attempt to undue the damage that he, and others like him, have done is a great step forward. Perhaps others, too, will now speak out, and through the actions of this man, and those that hopefully will follow him, real change may come of this, and true justice for all may find its' way into the fabric of American Society.

It likely will be just BECAUSE OF WHO HE IS, and what his position had been, that the "right" people will now sit up and take notice of his new found freedom to express what he is, and how he feels, and has felt in the past, regarding issues he, because of that position, was unable to EVER SPEAK publicly. This may well herald far greater change than he may have ever been able to effect while in office.

I don't pretend to condone his prior actions; but, having lived within those corridors of power, I do understand them.

I'm simply thankful that he has finally found the courage to step forward at all; far too many never have, and likely never will so long as we condemn them when they, at long last, finally do.

Warren C. E. Austin
The Gay Deceiver
Toronto, Canada

[Updated on: Fri, 27 August 2010 00:37]




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icon13.gif Re: Well, Brody.  [message #63384 is a reply to message #63383] Fri, 27 August 2010 12:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Brody Levesque is currently offline  Brody Levesque

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This sorry fucker didn't just sit by and let onerous policies & laws take place Warren, He FUCKING PARTICIPATED! He also let Gays Be murdered in Iraq! I will continue to condemn this piece of shit.
And having lived in those corridors of power???? So you aren't A Canadian Warren you're a closet Republican from here in DC? Please, you can't possibly have any understanding of just how bad it really is unless you have walked the walk as a Gay person in the US during these past almost ten years and as I work and live in DC as a political reporter, & have for over 15 years now, I am WAY better suited to call this piece of shit a piece of shit than you are EVER going to be able to. Watch These:

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[Updated on: Fri, 27 August 2010 13:00]

icon13.gif He is not one of us...  [message #63387 is a reply to message #63384] Fri, 27 August 2010 20:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chrisjames147 is currently offline  chrisjames147

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I can see this argument heating up and I have to ask is this man really worth such a viperous attitude on both sides...he is not. He is not one of us.

He shirked his responsibilities to us all for years, but we shall recover, he will not. The gay community is nothing like the Christian one, we don't forgive so easily just because someone yells "I repent." And as we all seem to understand, most of the repenting Christians go right back to their snivveling ways.

But Ken is the man who has to get up every morning and look at his face in the mirror, I wonder what he sees. We see a traitor, someone who participated in the harm brought down on the gay community at large during the Bush fiasco. I get Brody's point, how many teen suicides could have been prevented by a compassionate man in government?

Ken could have stepped forward wearing the crown of the RNC and declared himself gay. He would have been thrown out, voted out, shunned by the GOP at large. But what a powerful man would have evolved from that casting out. A man with the inside view of the power structure cast out because of his sexual orientation, he'd be the darling of the talk shows and lecture halls.

Would it have destroyed his personal life, I doubt it. The media hounded him it seems asking the big gay question. How much easier his life would have been if he had made a splash with the news. Of course maybe the RNC job was all a part of that denial, he was a member of the power elite and a liar...well, aren't they all?

In the long run Ken's story is his own, his life just a short headline. He may have been in the same GOP pond with the big fish, but he was little to nothing like the large bastards. I have no hate for the pathetic man he has become, none of this will do his love life any good.

I doubt if many will even read the book, there has to be a book, they always write books or show up on Oprah. He may redeem some of his past by working for gay causes and considering it pennance. Some will accept him, others will not.



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You cannot polish a turd  [message #63388 is a reply to message #63384] Sat, 28 August 2010 07:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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When I was a teenager I did what I had to do in order to survive. THat meant appearing to espouse anti-gay feelings. INdeed I had not admitted that I was queer even to myself. THat means I have a fleeting sympathy with this man. But it's fleeting.

The only person I hurt was myself. I espoused the rhetoric, but no actions.

He has hurt countless people globally.

Yeah, so he's a queer, like the rest of us. Big deal. He's still a hateful one. There isn't enough spin in the world to polish this turd.



Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
Re: You cannot polish a turd...  [message #63389 is a reply to message #63388] Sat, 28 August 2010 14:49 Go to previous message
Brody Levesque is currently offline  Brody Levesque

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...and to Tim's simple truth I'll add this: "After he spends the next ten years making up to the gay community for what he did to us, he can then spend the next 40 years making up to the world in general for inflicting Bush/Chenny and the Republican agenda on them. We need a lot more than sucking dick in common before I stop thinking he's a ultra right conservative nut job. The damage this man inflicted goes way beyond just what he did to the gay community. Embrace him? Not a chance."
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