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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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I have come home. I had expected the place still to be in meltdown. I have seen further attempts at meltdown. It is not yet stable
You all understand by now that I really do not care if someone leaves. I don't care if many people leave. People who leave have little value to add.
I don't care if they come back either.
I don't care who joins.
I don't care if a participant is male, female, young, old, playing a part, telling the truth. I don't care if a participant is an 85 year old woman acting the part of a gay pubescent youth. I don't even, and this will surprise you, care if someone is here for the purpose of trying to entice a kid into things better not done with a child under the age of consent. Wise kids will never fall for that, and we real people can give them sufficient wisdom. We know what smells, we know what is innocent. Sometimes it takes us a while, but we get there.
It was the parable of The Prodigal Son. But I don't even care much about that either. I don't care much that he has now exhibited a foot stamp and leave attitude twice. He is what he is. I do detest 'leaving messages'. This one was rather long, so I weighed it instead of reading it.
But I care about the way we conduct ourselves.
I care about sniping
I care about preaching
I care about resistance to learning
I care about many more things that that
I care about keeping the forum open
I care about people suppressing egos in favour of a greater good
I care.
But not that much.
I was expecting to close it down tomorrow, for an arbitrary period. I was hoping that those I perceive as anathema to this place would leave and never return.
I'll let it run a while longer. I hope I won't need the pause.
But, if you don't need something from here, or of you have no value to add, go find a dating site.
Thank you, Warren. Please keep going. And i like your briefer, punchier style
[Updated on: Sat, 11 September 2010 17:33]
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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... "red-in-the-face", "smoke streaming from ears and nostrils", "dancing on the ceiling", furious, is all.
I seldom feel "chatty" or "folksy" or "paternal" when I get this way.
That I've had to live through this shit at A Place Of Safety twice in 10-years is more than enough, and I simply have no more patience for it.
I sort of guess you can tell.
Warren C. E. Austin
The Gay Deceiver
Toronto, Canada
"... comme recherché qu'un délice callipygian"
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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I choose cold fury. 
The lunatics will not ruin the asylum. I have misphrased it, naturally
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
Messages: 13800
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Those who, for all of their own reasons, are unable to make a post, but hope to find this forum valuable, they are the people I care about most.
Anyone who misunderstands this sentence should evaluate their place here:
"The forum is created by those who post and they receive benefit from it, but it is primarily for those who just wish to read."
If you even think you are going to disagree with that, go now, and go in silence.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Dear Timmy,
I read that you perceive some posters as anathema to this place. Why don't you say who they are or simply exclude them?
Surely you want it to survive and in a form that you will welcome? Surely if you leave it to chance the wrong people will win or drive the right people away. You don't want that do you?
You are the arbiter of this place. You can decide what behaviour is encouraged and what is out of order. If you were to remove posters who behave badly surely the remainder would find it easier to keep to your standards?
Standards are meaningless without judgement and enforcement. I don't understand why, having the power to do something, you do nothing.
Love,
Anthony
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saben
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Registered: May 2003
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I don't think timmy likes to be more than just another forum member with his own sets of views.
He has opinions and prejudices- like we all do- but there is no reason his opinions or prejudices should set the mood for the forum any more than mine should or yours should.
No, that's not what this place has ever been about. Even if the cat occasionally slips out of the bag and timmy vents some frustration.
Look at this tree. I cannot make it blossom when it suits me nor make it bear fruit before its time [...] No matter what you do, that seed will grow to be a peach tree. You may wish for an apple or an orange, but you will get a peach.
Master Oogway
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
Messages: 13800
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I very much dislike wielding a stick here. If necessary I will exercise what might be termed 'authority', but I prefer, as I recognise from your comments, Saben, to trust the people here to act as adults, even, perhaps especially, when things go awry. You and others will know that we have by no means always seen eye to eye, and also that I know you have the greater good at heart. But that is not a set of checks and balances. The one does not counteract the other. I choose to provide a forum where we may disagree in harmony.
I am more frustrated than I choose to express right now. I would prefer it if people came to their own conclusions. Right now I endorse all of Warren's actions and those of anyone who follows in his path.
I would, however, draw Acam's attention most solidly to the things I have stated clearly that I care about. I can see two things on the list at least that the title of his post make flash in big red letters.
I find that precisely as obnoxious as the prior post I found obnoxious.
It's strange. Over my life many people have discovered that I am impossible to goad, or wind up. Some it makes try harder. Others take the message on board at once.
At present, however hard I attempt to be an ordinary poster, an ordinary member, here, I also have responsibilities that I will not shirk. Rarely, and almost always only on matters of conduct, my view will prevail.
I just give people enough rope to hang themselves. I don't find it amusing, but it is most definitely pragmatic.
[Updated on: Sat, 11 September 2010 19:44]
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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