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icon5.gif Why is the USA in the forefront of bullycide?  [message #64188] Sun, 03 October 2010 17:27 Go to next message
timmy

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I can't explain it, not at all. So I asked a young Englishman: http://tinyurl.com/37frndp

Now, I was wondering, those of you who know school age boys and girls, or those recently at school, please would you ask them about bullycide, and answer here with their thoughts and their nation, region, too, if it helps.



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Re: Why is the USA in the forefront of bullycide?  [message #64189 is a reply to message #64188] Sun, 03 October 2010 20:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've asked a young US man. He said very clearly that he was an outsider at high school, but that he noticed neither bullying nor lack of acceptance of gay students at his school. He thinks that, where he was, people wee either oblivious to homosexual students or accepting of them.

This I find encouraging. But the sample is small and not in any way meaningful



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Re: Why is the USA in the forefront of bullycide?  [message #64190 is a reply to message #64189] Sun, 03 October 2010 21:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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From a site on gay bullying;

While trying to deal with all the challenges of being a teenager, gay/ lesbian/ bisexual/ transgender (GBLT) teens additionally have to deal with harassment, threats, and violence directed at them on a daily basis. They hear anti-gay slurs such as “homo”, “faggot” and “sissy” about 26 times a day or once every 14 minutes. Even more troubling, a study found that thirty-one percent of gay youth had been threatened or injured at school in the last year alone!
Re: Why is the USA in the forefront of bullycide?  [message #64191 is a reply to message #64190] Sun, 03 October 2010 21:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I read that, probably on the same site.

UK kids hear the same anti gay slurs on TV. the words "That's so GAY!" are heard in schools here, but I know my wife's school tried to stamp it out.

We do not seem to have the same level of at least sociopathic, probably psychopathic threats.

I wonder, not altogether idly, if it is to do with corn syrup, a sweetener I think we hardly use here.



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Re: Why is the USA in the forefront of bullycide?  [message #64192 is a reply to message #64190] Sun, 03 October 2010 21:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've been talking to some boys - 10, 11 & 13 years old. They claim that there's no bullying in their schools. (?)

A Highschool teacher here says, yes there is bullying in her school. It's a problem but not a huge one. Staff are quick to deal with it when they can and it is generally just verbal abuse, mostly by teenage girls. She could not imagine it ever getting serious enough to cause suicide, though some kids can be prone to that anyway and it wouldn't take a lot to set them off.

There are gay kids in her school, they don't get overly hassled - no more than anyone else. The most serious bullying they have is girls ganging-up on an overweight, red-haired 14yo girl - which infuriates the Principal as he is also an overweight, red-head and he was bullied for it at school when he was a kid.

So, yes there is some bullying, but generally just kid-stuff, they can be nasty little sods, and 'gay' is not an issue.

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Re: Why is the USA in the forefront of bullycide?  [message #64194 is a reply to message #64192] Sun, 03 October 2010 22:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We have to assume that the small sample we have here is atypical in all respects. But we do have 6 (or more) US places of education with bullying (the deaths) vs one with none. and tow other random schools in the UK and in NZ where it is stamped on.



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Re: Why is the USA in the forefront of bullycide?  [message #64195 is a reply to message #64194] Sun, 03 October 2010 22:59 Go to previous message
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Wow! I didn't know much this before today. I just got off the phone with my daughter, I knew she had problems dealing with bulling on the bus that took her to school and complained to the school about it before. But she never told me before today of the daily torment she was also getting at school. I (we) lived on a mountain outside of Las Vegas, Nev. on five acres. So she attended a school 30 miles away, not in Vegas. She complained to the school officials, and they told her school was tough, get over it! She also told me that when Columbine happened, she was not surprised nor felt anger at the killers. That surprised the hell out of me! Why she never told me about the daily abuse she was getting, she said the humiliation kept her from saying anything to me. Believe me, I would have done something about it. Surprisingly when we moved back to Las Vegas, and she attended another high school, there was no bulling at all to almost any one and there was a high density of Mormons in that school along with openly gay kids. Go figure, I guess the rural areas are the worst, because her previous school was filled also with a Mormon populace
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