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icon4.gif Does anyone have  [message #5173] Sat, 19 October 2002 17:10 Go to next message
Steve is currently offline  Steve

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the e-mail addy of Tim of USA? I have been away from the MB for a day or so and want to contact him. If you have it please respond. Thanks.
I, too am wondering about this ...  [message #5180 is a reply to message #5173] Sat, 19 October 2002 21:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
warren c. e. austin is currently offline  warren c. e. austin

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... as I've just finished searching through some 12 or 13 back-pages of this board looking for one.

I did uncover his AOL Instant Messenger "screen-name", namely "Freaky Timmer", and his hotmail/MSN Messenger "handle", which is "timmer101@hotmail.com".

I'm currently logged-in to both (although I wouldn't ordinarily ever use MSN Messenger because of privacy concerns and seldom use others such as AOL Instant Messenger, Yahoo! Pager or Excite Private Messenger) adding him to both "I want to know when they are are on-line lists". Such is my present concern for him.

I assume that e-Mail directed to specifically the hotmail.com account should be received - the question being how often he monitors the account; one might also try "freakytimmer@aol.com", but the existance of a "screen-name" won't necessarily imply the existence of an aol.com e-Mail account - but it worth a try.

Warren C. E. Austin
I have just finished speaking with him ...  [message #5181 is a reply to message #5173] Sat, 19 October 2002 22:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
warren c. e. austin is currently offline  warren c. e. austin

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... via "timmer101@hotmail.com" and MSN Messenger. God how I hate that programme and its' intrusive behaviour.

The nuts'n'bolts of it all seems to be that he's somehow come to the conclusion that nothing he has to say is at all relevant to the supposed purpose of this Message Board.

His last communication before summarily closing down disturbed me; I'm trying as I type this to find the transcript of our dialogue (I know that it is stored somewhere here on my system - I just haven't found it yet.

He sounds suicidal.

Unfortunately, I've little or no experience in this regard, and feel this would be better handled by someone here who does.

Where the hell is the automatically generated transcript of MSM Messenger Chat stored. I need this. We all need this. Instant Messenger me at either AOL instant Messager "screen-name " the gaydeceiver, or MSN Messenger the gaydeceiver@hotmail.com.

I'm live right now awaoting this information so that I can post the transcript to maybe help someone who knows how to deal with this.

Warren C. E. Austin
icon4.gif Warren  [message #5188 is a reply to message #5181] Sun, 20 October 2002 04:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you can talk to Tim again please give him this number; Covenant House – 1-800-999-9999. It is a suicide hotline and should be good from anywhere in the US. He'll have to make the call, though. Here is a link to their site

http://www.covenanthouse.org/nineline/kid_suicide.html

Also try and convince him that we love him and that he IS relevant. Perhaps he can come and read our posts in response to his. I for one always look forward to his posts, whether he originates the thread or is responding to someone else.

Think GOOD thoughts,
e
icon4.gif Warren, unfortunately MSN transcripts aren't stored ANYWHERE.  [message #5191 is a reply to message #5181] Sun, 20 October 2002 08:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you close the chat window, it's GONE FOREVER.

You need to cut and paste the text into a text editor or word processor (click chat text window, hit ctrl-a, ctrl-c, then ctrl-v into program of your choice).

I tried chatting with him too, and he was curt in his responses to the point of almost being rude. I tried to tell him he matters, but his response was more or less like, 'ok, so what?'... Like he didn't care at all, or didn't allow himself to care. It worried me too, because he's never been like that in our other (admittedly not very frequent) chats!

I have seen him come online a couple more times, but I didn't want to bug him again. Maybe he'd just reject me or block me on the messenger, I don't want that to happen. When I see him come online at least I know he's still "ok".

-Lenny



"But he that hath the steerage of my course,
direct my sail."

-William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Act One, Scene IV
Re: Warren, unfortunately MSN transcripts aren't stored ANYWHERE.  [message #5193 is a reply to message #5191] Sun, 20 October 2002 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, two solutions to the lack of chat logging by MSN, the first is to stop using MSN an instead use Trillian http://www.trillian.cc/ for more info the other is to install the MSN Plus patch http://www.patchou.com/msgplus/ quite a useful little thing. By the way, I'm new here, so "Hi everyone", from the 17 year old from down under!
icon14.gif Wow! Thanks for the tip! And hi to you too, great to see another face!  [message #5194 is a reply to message #5193] Sun, 20 October 2002 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A bit too many exclamation marks for just one line... Sorry about that, it might make me seem like a bit of a raving loonie I know. Smile

I will look into that patch you mentioned, it sounds nice. Trillian I've heard of many times but never really gotten around to trying. Thanks again.


-Lenny



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direct my sail."

-William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Act One, Scene IV
icon7.gif HEY QM  [message #5199 is a reply to message #5193] Sun, 20 October 2002 14:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't want your "hello" to get lost in the shuffle Smile Glad to meet you........talk again soon.
smith
GOOD, another has stepped into the light and let himself be known.  [message #5204 is a reply to message #5193] Sun, 20 October 2002 15:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
warren c. e. austin is currently offline  warren c. e. austin

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This is so awesome, and truly important that you have done so.

I furvently hope, like yours and Jeff's, and TomS's and others recent revelations that you and they too are here, these declarations will be the impetus that will lead others out from the shadows, and allow us to welcome them, whoever they may be, one and all.

As I've said earlier to today in another *post* (Jeff's first - further down), this is the fuel that will drive our, and this Board's future. Knowing who is out there, and how we may (individually and collectively) be of assistance is an imperative that I cannot iterate too strongly. You must, all of you hidden souls, let yourselves be seen to be heard. We are here for you.

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And now a word from one of our sponsors.

Regarding MSN Messenger: this is just one more reason why I must be hating versions 4.5 and 4.6 of this applet so much.

I do know that in versions 4.3 or maybe it was 4.4, and earlier, a log was created. I just have to find one of my machines I haven't upgraded yet, and locate where it put it, and then determine if, under the most recent incarnations it still does, but is doing so in the guise of Mr. Gates "new" and wonderful "let's hide these things, so no-one knows we're doing it concepts". I know it's got to be there, even if it's buried inone of those vacuous hidden and read-only "index.dat" files (or even more insidious, one of the other lesser and unknown ones) that seem to populated just about every Microsoft authored and installed application folder these days.

I appreciate your heads-up about it no-longer doing so in such a logical and obvious manner; but believe me when I tell you, it won't have simply stopped doing so; it continues to, but we are supposed to know about it, nor just how and where it is.

***********

Back to our regularly sheduled programme!

Welcome. You come back soon, and real often.

You all hear that out there?

Warren C. E. Austin
Welcome, QM!  [message #5245 is a reply to message #5193] Mon, 21 October 2002 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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icon7.gif Hey there :) Glad your here  [message #5246 is a reply to message #5193] Mon, 21 October 2002 15:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Searching for the light at the end of the bed...
icon7.gif Re: HEY QM  [message #5250 is a reply to message #5199] Mon, 21 October 2002 18:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes indeed, welcome QM! It would have been so much nicer if your first posting here came under happier circumstances; but the fact that a wish to come to the aid of another person was the motivation for it speaks volumes about you, and about what a significant contribution to the forum your future postings will make (a contribution I hope the rest of us can reciprocate). Please do post anytime you have any thoughts you'd like to express.

Although the National Day of Mourning for the victims of the bombing in Bali was this past Sunday, please accept this sprig of wattle from an American Yankee (one of the very few, I'm ashamed to say, who does care).



We do not remember days...we remember moments.

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Re: HEY QM  [message #5251 is a reply to message #5250] Mon, 21 October 2002 18:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry; must have had an itchy left mouse button finger!



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icon7.gif Late again - but welcome aboard  [message #5264 is a reply to message #5193] Mon, 21 October 2002 23:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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icon8.gif RON! Are you insinuating that ..............  [message #5275 is a reply to message #5250] Tue, 22 October 2002 04:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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..... the rest of us Ami's (German slang for Americans) don't care. I MUST take that as a personal affront.

I too care, a great deal ..... even about you.

** Kevin growls just a little .... "Dang Ami's" **

Much Love,
Kevin



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icon9.gif Re: RON! Are you insinuating that ..............  [message #5277 is a reply to message #5275] Tue, 22 October 2002 04:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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first off, welcome QM, i'm just catching up on things.

second, that hurts ron, i have to back kevin up on his reply.
i'm not going to get defensive about it, but get to know us first.

please.

Brian
icon7.gif Brian, I was joking ..... sorry i sometimes forget ....  [message #5279 is a reply to message #5277] Tue, 22 October 2002 04:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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you can't see me laughing (or crying) while I type.

Mayb a litle truth to it, but I know Ron didn't really men it.
(Least I hope not!!) hehe

Kevin



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Re: RON! Are you insinuating that ..............  [message #5288 is a reply to message #5275] Tue, 22 October 2002 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kevin, you are absolutely right.

After "hitting 'send'", I realized I had left myself wide open for perfectly understandable misinterpretation. I certainly did not presume to consider myself the only American (or person of any nationality, for that matter) who cares at all about what happened in Bali (that would certainly be the absolute ultimate in arrogance). What I was reacting to was what seems to be the indifference of the "powers-that-be" in the United States to this horrible tragedy. Perhaps I haven't been reading the right newspapers or hearing the right newscasts, but aside from the predictable suspicion of Al Qaeda involvement, I have yet to hear anything in the way of an official condemnation of the bombing or expression of sympathy for the victims (there may have indeed been, but even if so, it seems to have come nowhere near that which the United States would have expected from the rest of the world had it been the target).

Among my online chat buddies is a young man from Australia who speaks most candidly of the way many Australians (himself included) feel about the United States, about how the United States always expects unquestioning support from countries like Australia, but refuses to return the favor unless the United States has some sort of financial stakes in the matter. History has shown time and again that there is no denying this. Anyway, it was just before I made that posting that he told me about one among the Australian victims of the Bali bombing was his best friend's cousin, who was all of 18 years old. They are beside themselves with grief; and that (legitimately) perceived American indifference to it all just rubs more salt into that wound. This attack happened almost literally half a world away from this little spot on the globe I inhabit; but (yet again) the power of the Internet has brought it that much closer to home (and I'm sure this is not the only such story). Since the World Trade Center attack, everywhere I look I see signs and bumper-stickers displaying some representation of the American flag with the caption, "Proud to be an American". I realize this could get me shot for treason, but it's at times like this that I am actually ashamed and embarrassed to be an American (forgive me; but as I have stated here before, I consider myself a citizen of the world who just happens to live in the United States).

Kevin, please forgive me. You had every right in the world to react the way you did. In the relatively brief time you've been posting here, you have shown time and again that you do care, most deeply; and that's one of the reasons you are among those whose postings I particularly look forward to reading (and yes, I do care about you, too!).

**Ron joins Kevin in a "Dang Amis" duet**

Just as much love (at least!) right back!

Ron



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Cesare Pavese
Re: RON! Are you insinuating that ..............  [message #5290 is a reply to message #5277] Tue, 22 October 2002 10:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It appears pacman may have posted this as I was busy typing my reply to Kevin, so I was unaware of it until after I posted that reply (which should be just below this in the thread).

Pacman, like Kevin, you too are absolutely right. In my own (lame) defense, it was my failure to explain myself in that prior post, coupled with my own personal grief over what happened, which got me into trouble. In so doing, I find I am myself guilty of the same sort of "shooting from the lip" for which I hold others in derision. Please forgive me; it was certainly not my intention to hurt you (or anybody here), and I hope I can learn more about you (and all of you).


Ron



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Re: Brian, I was joking ..... sorry i sometimes forget ....  [message #5291 is a reply to message #5279] Tue, 22 October 2002 10:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And I didn't see this posting until after I posted those last two.

Thanks, Kevin. Hugs!


Ron



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icon6.gif Your forgiven, you know that even before i post this.  [message #5327 is a reply to message #5290] Wed, 23 October 2002 03:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ron and i have already spoken. All is great, just ask me, or him.


Brian
icon7.gif I throw them a lemon, they give me back lemonade  [message #5329 is a reply to message #5327] Wed, 23 October 2002 04:40 Go to previous message
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Due to their abundant generosity, Kevin, pacman2 and USA Tim have added me to their chat buddy lists, and have allowed me to add them to mine.

Thanks, guys!



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