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What do we understand about Trans folk?  [message #64598] Sat, 30 October 2010 12:47 Go to next message
timmy

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Not "what is the definition?" Not "Should it be 'Transgendered' or 'Transsexual' or 'Transexual'?" Not "Does it include 'Transvesitite'?" Not even 'What do we know?"

I want to know what we understand.

[Updated on: Sat, 30 October 2010 12:47]




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Me, I don't understand that much  [message #64599 is a reply to message #64598] Sat, 30 October 2010 13:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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I know my cousin Lindy was born a boy and named Graham.

I know he had a rough childhood, knowing he was different from the age of seven. That's what she told me when I sat down with her in 2007.

I know she enjoys sex, primarily with women, and has chosen to have breast enhancements but not genital reconstruction. And I know she has and enjoys sex with men. I neither know nor care whether she is homosexual because, as she and I agreed, there is no way of knowing, far less of understanding.

I know she is a tall, very tall, lady with impeccable clothing, though sometimes with poor taste of outfit for the occasion. This may be to say "This is me!" I have not asked her.

I know her family were, once, ashamed to be seen with her. Her two elder sisters accept her now, though they confess bewilderment. Her older brother made her dress as a man at her father's funeral "Or you will not be allowed to come."

I know she confuses me by drinking pints of lager in pubs. That's a very bloke-ish thing for a lady.

I know she has a feminine voice and a masculine voice. That's hardly surprising since Graham went though male puberty.

That's a list of some of the things I know. But what do I understand?

There's a huge difference, you see, between knowledge and understanding. It's easier to tell you what I don't understand, but that's not the point.

I understand one thing for sure. I understand Lindy's need for acceptance as Lindy. And I know that Lindy is a fine woman, so I understand Lindy's need to be accepted as a woman, a fine woman, named Lindy.

She has many attributes that I admire as a human being and some that I do not. None of those are anything at all to do with her being Trans, they are to do with her and her life. Not her lifestyle, but her life.

I understand that she is Lindy, not a curiosity, not a chick with a dick, but someone who is female with an unfortunate set of appendages that seem to show otherwise.

And I understand that she is comfortable as a woman.

I don't undertand much, but I understand that much.

[Updated on: Sat, 30 October 2010 15:58]




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Re: Me, I don't understand that much  [message #64601 is a reply to message #64599] Sat, 30 October 2010 13:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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To quote myself in the other thread: "I would not wish to be transgendered myself, but I support the right of others to make that choice even if I don't understand it."

How vague of me! My reference was about the "choice" to physically change the body, I certainly don't believe these individuals choose to be a woman trapped in a man's body any more than I chose to be a gay man. It is nature's way, I'm sure it happens in all species on the planet.

I believe it happens for a reason, one we will never understand. We're not supposed to gain that knowledge because as ignorant human beings we would seek to tamper with the formula. Nature has the ultimate password, the firewall that cannot be breached less we destroy ourselves. Nature understands us only too well.

There is much that has been written on the psychlogical makeup of transgender persons,and the possibilities of physical gender reassignment. I have read some of that, I understand that even less. But the medical establishment takes this gender reassignment practice quite seriously. As LBG persons we are what we are, only the transgendered (the T in any sense of the word) have the means to change.



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icon7.gif Re: Me, I don't understand that much  [message #64603 is a reply to message #64601] Sat, 30 October 2010 14:10 Go to previous message
timmy

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I appreciate your clarification.



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