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How wonderful that these Christian leaders now feel the odd man out. With just a little thought they might be led to understand that extremest views are indefensable.
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/11/01/bishops-say-gay-rights-laws-damage-christian-freedoms/
I don't suppose the couple who wish to foster children in that extreme Christian atmosphere would find it easy to reevaluate their beliefs. Maybe those needy children can find a nice gay couple willing to teach them the truth about life. Three cheers for the Derby City Council.
Age appears to be best in four things; old wood best to burn, old wine to drink, old friends to trust, and old authors to read. (Sir Francis Bacon 1561-1626)
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timmy
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The thing is, much as it is emotionally pleasant to see them upset by having to accord human rights to LGBT folk, intellectually I cannot be pleased if (note 'if') they are really being bullied.
If they are simply saying words to the effect that they are being bullied that is a fish of a very different colour, though.
I believe that the churches have a duty to be christ-like. Being christian seems to differ from that in great measure.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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DesDownunder
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This is interesting. You can't ask a heterosexual couple to not have children if they disapprove of homosexual relations, or because they belong to a particular religion. Adoption agencies must ensure as far as is possible, that the child is going to be raised in an environment that is healthy.
It is the definition of 'healthy' that is difficult here as most child services organisations are held responsible by the state to best serve the interests of the child.
Is the indoctrination of a child, any child, into an established organised religion, healthy? While parents have pretty much the right to raise their children in whatever belief or non-belief system they wish, they still have a duty to the society, the state, to not create a miscreant, social misfit or psychopath. In fact, moreover, they have a duty of care to the child to ensure that they provide the best possible chance for the child to develop to a stage where it can realise its full human potential.
How many children actually have parents who manage anywhere near that, even if we could actually define it?
Still, whatever the child's opportunities in life are, the question is can the state child welfare organisation, in letting a couple adopt a child, condone a clear and present danger of the child being indoctrinated in a faith which, by law, is separated from the state?
In this case I see the prospective adopters as problematic because their belief on the subject of homosexuality could impact the child's development in an unhealthy manner (limiting the child's potential development.) Their belief is in clear violation of human rights.
I maintain that you cannot condone religious condemnation of homosexuality as it amounts to persecution of people.
The religion is not and should not be free to believe that a certain group of people can be persecuted because of their sacred writings. Our individual inalienable human rights, our birthright, must come before religious belief.
The law has to bite the bullet and say no, you do not have the right to believe that being left-handed is wrong, or that black people are inferior, or that homosexuality is a sin.
In other words it is time to tell the religions they cannot go on believing nonsense where it hurts other people, and especially where it involves the development of a child.
Can this be enforced by the state? Now that is a really difficult question to answer without upsetting someone's idea of their rights.
DesDownunder
Call me naive if you want, but life without trust in the goodness of others would be intolerable.
Religious indoctrination: It gets better, without it.
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