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Re: Faith, Religion, Homosexuality, LGBTQ People, God, Sin  [message #76482 is a reply to message #76461] Tue, 14 January 2020 01:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Faith, Religion, Homosexuality, LGBTQ People, God, Sin  [message #76541 is a reply to message #76275] Fri, 14 February 2020 16:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bensiamin is currently offline  Bensiamin   United States

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In case anyone thinks religious intolerance isn't a problem, a recent turn of events in Portland, Oregon illustrates how far we have to go, and just how deep the opposition and bigotry runs. Concordia University, a 115-year old Lutheran college in Portland announced this week it was closing after some years of financial problems caused mainly be declining student registration. The University's financial problems could have been ameliorated by assistance from the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod, except the Synod tied financial assistance to the school addressing its campus resource center that supports LGBTQ students.

Here's the operant part of the story: the synod's board of directors in Houston, passed a resolution stating they were determined to withhold further financial assistance "until the university has substantively addressed the issues regarding the Gender and Sexuality Resource Center and brought its articles and bylaws back into conformity with the requirements of the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod."

The synod is vehemently anti-gay rights, arguing "homosexuality is a sinful distortion of His desire that one man and one woman live together in marriage as husband and wife."

"God," the synod states on its website, "categorically prohibits homosexuality."

The article appeared in The Oregonian

So, not only is this church's position on homosexuality antideluvian and hateful, the bigotry is so embedded in the values system of this church that they are willing to allow a university to fail and deny over 5,000 students the ability to graduate, in order to have their position prevail. The religious push back to LGBTQ rights is operating on a very wide front.




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Re: Faith, Religion, Homosexuality, LGBTQ People, God, Sin  [message #76547 is a reply to message #76541] Mon, 17 February 2020 20:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Bensiamin wrote on Fri, 14 February 2020 08:21"
In case anyone thinks religious intolerance isn't a problem, a recent turn of events in Portland, Oregon illustrates how far we have to go, and just how deep the opposition and bigotry runs. Concordia University, a 115-year old Lutheran college in Portland announced this week it was closing after some years of financial problems caused mainly be declining student registration. The University's financial problems could have been ameliorated by assistance from the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod, except the Synod tied financial assistance to the school addressing its campus resource center that supports LGBTQ students.




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I had wondered about this one. I read that story on a couple of the local PDX TV news pages but neither of them gave a reason beyond financial issues. I was relatively certain there had to be more to the story than what the TV Stations were telling us.

It figures that religious bigotry was the driving factor in Concordia's ultimate demise. Sad and discouraging, but hardly a surprise. A good friend told me following the Overgefellv. Hodges decision by the US Supreme Court in 2015 that legalized same sex marriage here in the US that we would see across the board pushback from the Christian right unlike any pushback we've seen in our lifetimes and that things would get very, very ugly before they get better again. It seems as if he may have been correct.



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Re: Faith, Religion, Homosexuality, LGBTQ People, God, Sin  [message #77423 is a reply to message #76275] Wed, 21 October 2020 15:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bensiamin is currently offline  Bensiamin   United States

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Let The Turmoil Begin!

The New York Times today broke a story about support for same-sex unions by Pope Francis. The statements appear in a film about the pope that release Oct. 21 in Rome, but are at odds with the Church's formal position.

http://forum.iomfats.org/?t=getfile&id=5215&private=0

That position is found in the Church's catechism where homosexuality is defined as intrinsically disordered (specifically, an intrinsic moral disorder that is the Protestant equivalent to depraved sin), and further fortified by Pope Benedict's 2003 proclamation that: "The Church teaches that respect for homosexual persons cannot lead in any way to approval of homosexual behavior or to legal recognition of homosexual unions."

Read the New York Times piece here.

This news is certain to unleash a period of turmoil and infighting between the Pope what has become known for personal compassion and empathy, and the conservative hierarchy--especially conservative Bishops in the United States and Africa. It should be remembered that until/unless the Catechism of the Church changes, the formal teaching and position of the church remains the same.

Read more in our LGBTQ and Faith section here.

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Re: Faith, Religion, Homosexuality, LGBTQ People, God, Sin  [message #77430 is a reply to message #77423] Thu, 22 October 2020 15:55 Go to previous message
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INTERESTING! Here's the view of another Good Catholic Boy on the Pope's statement about civil unions!

http://forum.iomfats.org/?t=getfile&id=5218&private=0



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