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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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If things can't be posted without people going off on a namby pamby crusade that says that the politically correct crowd are here.
This forum was never, not ever, intended to be politically correct.
So, if this is going to happen, why don't I just turn it off?
In case you had not noticed, the main site is full of stories about teenagers having sex. Shall I close that down, too?
Get over it.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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timmy
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Has no life at all |
Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
Messages: 13751
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I see you can't come up with any reasons to keep it online.
Yesterday I cared about it, passionately. Today you have made sure I no longer care. I'd like to congratulate you.
There is another forum you can all go to. It's heavily policed so that not a hint of s e x ever gets posted. Kids are welcome but must be protected at all costs. Go there. You obviously don't want this place.
Nor do I, much, today.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Timmy, I may be acting thick or maybe missed the relevant post - I don't read every one - but for the sake of the more naïve readers, could you be more explicit. please?
Hugs
N
I dream of boys with big bulges in their trousers,
Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.
…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
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timmy
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Has no life at all |
Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
Messages: 13751
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I hardly blame you for not reading every one. The video in the god/goat thread has been roundly criticised as some sort of abuse of children.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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I missed the vid as my brand new 10Mbs optic fibre internet connection only gave a jerky and incoherent reproduction of it. Consequently I missed the point(s) of the the rest of the thread. Perhaps I should try to watch it again during a less busy part of the day.
Hugs
N
I dream of boys with big bulges in their trousers,
Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.
…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
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... and its' place in the overall scheme of things; but, hardly do I think it should be rearing its' oftentimes ugly head in a forum such as this.
As I understand it, and please do Timmy correct me if I'm wrong, you have so graciously provided us with this arena, so designed to facilitate the 'free exchange' ideas related to our being GAY and whereby we might express our hopes and expectations, our miseries and our joys especially as they relate to our inalienable right to be able to be GAY.
If along the way we are able to provide succor and relief to others sharing our condition, so be it. If we can rescue some tortured soul, or abused youth (or adult), again so be it.
Having survived being GAY this past odd sixty years, or thereabouts, I see nothing "Politically Correct" about my having survived it at all; nor that of my GAY friends, the greater majority of whom I have buried because of our society's (and their family's) "Politically Correctness" in its' response to the AIDS epidemic.
I, and those I most deeply have cared about, have been spit upon, beaten, shit upon, tortured, tormented, been accused of heresy because of it, and Lord alone knows what else for it; all in the name of "Political Correctness". That I emerged, reaching retirement age, largely unscathed, and affected, by all that "Politically Correctness" fosters and engenders is a mystery to me. As I mentioned to a young male, and married, recent acquaintance of mine only last evening over a beer as we celebrated his forthcoming thirtieth birthday, I cannot sit in judgment of anyone for their beliefs, or attitudes ... to anything ... not that, and have survived all that the world, and it's intolerance and prejudice of the past 50-years had thrown at me. I have done, and my family before me has done, many things that I'm not especially proud of; just as too, there are many that I am.
Whilst I now live in somewhat diminished circumstances approaching old age, I'm not ashamed of it; nor do I lust for the glory days of my having had at one time considerable wealth. My grandfather, largely because of my father's alcoholism (and the likelihood that it would rear its' ugly head in either my brother or I), divested the family holdings (whilst I was a teenager), selling off the assets of a Corporation that had been in our family for nearly three centuries. The profits from the sale were plowed into a family Trust which will 'in perpetuity' support local Children's Aid Societies throughout Canada. In addition, the land upon which the family homestead sat aided in the creation of a National Park from those lands donated for that purpose, with foreign real estate holdings similarly converted in Europe, the Americas and Asia supporting public housing, recreation and preservation trusts.
Today, as those who know me well know, while I could well sit on the Boards of a dozen Corporations, all at one time or another affiliated with branches of my family's own enterprise, I choose to volunteer at a local Social Services agency, working in their Food Bank two times or more a week, continuing in my spare time with my own (now dormant) Partnership's practice of refurbishing and providing 'free of all cost' computers to those who cannot afford them through a local Saint Vincent De Paul Society. As with my own two sons (both adopted after a long period of foster-parenting) before him, I have once more become Guardian to a teen-aged youth with considerable drug- and alcohol-related difficulties.
These endeavours, my family's and mine own, have all be undertaken without any considerations of "Political Correctness", although I do retain the services of a Business Manager to oversee the Computer's Charity, now simply out of habit but originally out of necessity, and that of my being gay, and that the lion's share of the clients we serve being families with children, and any direct association on my part with those families, or their children, might have at one time been looked upon with some concern.
Timmy ... continue to do what you do, and do well, and be damned with the mean-spirited and intolerant musings of all or anyone espousing the merits of being "Politically Correct". These same self-righteous assholes weren't ever there in the beginning, so why fret over whether they are there now.
Warren C. E. Austin
The Gay Deceiver
Toronto, Canada
[Updated on: Sun, 19 July 2009 20:06]
"... comme recherché qu'un délice callipygian"
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Location: currently So Cal
Registered: May 2002
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There is a very fine line seperating art, entertainment ,and pornography. Purpose, social value, aesthetics, etc. can be the determining factors. The is no simple definition or consensus on what constitutes the difference between them. Each has its place in society. Yes, even pornography. But child pornography is different. It has no place. Children are to be protected. When they aren't protected, it can arouse great passion in all of us.
I'm not judging the video you posted, but you must have known when you posted it that some people might, rightly or wrongly, find it objectionable. Filming teenage boys running around outside in their underwear doesn't consitute pornography in and of itself. The video could have been quite innocent. On the other hand, adults encouraging this activity for the purpose of monetary gain or for sexual fantasy without regard for what this may mean for the child ARE exploiting those children.
I have no idea of the purpose of this video, who made it, or why. So I won't judge it. But I will say that you should have known when you posted it that it might provoke a negative reaction and you should have been prepared to deal with that reaction. Even on this site where we are far more tolerant of such things, discussions about child abuse have always provoked passionate responses.
You provide a great service, timmy. What you do has value. But not everyone is going to agree with everything you do or say and some are going to be vocal about it. Differences of opinion are what makes us interesting and what makes the site work. If you make it so that we can't feel free to say what we think, then the value of the site will be diminished.
Think good thoughts,
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ray2x
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Really getting into it |
Location: USA
Registered: April 2009
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In forming a response, I am a bit agahst at the reactions to opinions. However, the point is well taken. There is hypocracy on my part that I viewed the video and enjoyed the layer of exposures from fully clothed, to shirtless, to wearing only underwear and then hoping for nudity. But there will be some sense of "hold back" as I've been conditioned to the hysteria and rush to protect the children. In the teaching profession, one must literally sign off to reading and understanding child and dependent adult abuse and it has been so for the past 25 years. It seems that the abuse issue has an undesired effect of holding one hostage to an ideology. I still would not think of physically having sex with a young child and will quibble about sexual readiness of preteens and adolescent males. I will still enjoy the stories here and at other sites. I will enjoy the posts as I have found them to be a wonderful experience in my gay life.
Raymundo
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timmy
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Has no life at all |
Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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I give up.
I post a video which illustrates the wonderful idiocy and exuberance of boys. You see a strip show.
It's kids. On bikes. Being kids. Bold, funny, stupid, showing off, and wearing clothing that is perfectly decent on any beach.
It isn't even a double entendre like Mrs Slocombe and her pussy. It's clean outdoor fun. Fun like any teenager might wish to have if he;s insane enough to try to kill himself on a bike over a rock.
Get over it. Not just you. ALL of you.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Dear Timmy,
What I saw, was "a video which illustrates the wonderful idiocy and exuberance of boys". What raised my mental guard, ever so slightly, was the possibility that one of the boys might injure himself.
But I live in a society where ordinary people are less prone than the pope to spell the word 'sex' as soon they see bare shoulders, which, however, doesn't imply indifference towards child abuse.
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timmy
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Has no life at all |
Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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And, today, boys wear three quarter length shorts, feel that swimming trunks are gay, and are ashamed of their bodies. All because a bunch of prurient arsewipes looked at them and got erect and started to drool.
I'm sure the kids in the movie do get hurt, but they're boys. Boys do things like that. And that, too, is the whole point.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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JimB
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Registered: December 2006
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timmy wrote:
> Get over it.
You need to take your own advice, Timmy. Perhaps those responding to the God/Goat thread overreacted to the video but without doubt you overreacted to their comments. And rather than participate in the discussion or withdraw from it you chose to put on a rather childish tantrum.
If this forum means so little to you that you would shut it down for such an insignificant reason then that is what you should do.
JimB
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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I expect independent thought, not the political correctness of the lynch mob.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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