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A couple of T topics  [message #73310] Tue, 29 August 2017 16:15 Go to next message
timmy   United Kingdom

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First Rocklin Academy caught my eye, and then this piece. Is it satire?

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Re: A couple of T topics  [message #73315 is a reply to message #73310] Wed, 30 August 2017 18:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
andypaz is currently offline  andypaz   Argentina

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rather, like madness?
Re: A couple of T topics  [message #73320 is a reply to message #73310] Wed, 30 August 2017 23:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ChrisR is currently offline  ChrisR   Italy

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The line between fact and satire with gender identity seems to have been blurred quite badly. The New York City Mayor's office released a document listing 31 "gender identities" officially recognized by the city, and seemed to threaten employees who failed to use the terms provided.

The document seems to have since been deleted from the Mayor's page. [ http://www.nyc.gov/html/cchr/downloads/pdf/publications/Gend erID_InterpretiveGuide_2015.pdf] However, a copy of the original list can be seen at http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax/files/8c/8c655149-74dc-4a66-a 0f8-5839c1f1c5a0.jpg

What is interesting in the list is the absence of a few terms such as "male", "female", "boy" and "girl". (Although male-to-female and female-to-male are in place.) And the "pronouns" mentioned in the article you cite are absent. He, she, heshe, shehe, etc.

How a first grader is expected to navigate the swamp is tough to imagine.
Re: A couple of T topics  [message #73328 is a reply to message #73320] Thu, 31 August 2017 11:49 Go to previous message
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ChrisR wrote on Thu, 31 August 2017 00:34
How a first grader is expected to navigate the swamp is tough to imagine.


I don't think kids worry about labels too much: they just relate to people as they find them! And most adults are pretty understanding about helping kids work out the label thing whenever it rears its head. I honestly don't see this as being any more complicated than religion (Evangelical, Quaker, Protestant, Catholic, Hindu, Jain, Pagan/Wiccan, Sunni, Shiite, Jewish ....), diet (omnivore, meat-eater, vegan, vegetarian, pesetcarian, fructarian, "Primitive" diet, ovo-lactarian, kosher, hallal ...) or national/ethic identity (English, Black British, London Chinese, Scottish-Italian, ...). Most of the time, people just relate to other people as individuals with individual quirks, habits, and needs: labels only come into it when there's a need to establish a personal/social identity for oneself*, or when one needs to categorise people for statistical purposes.

*my own personal/social identity for the past three and a half decades has been "out gay man", for example ... though I may reluctantly have to add "older" to that!

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