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timmy
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I even find it blurred in heterosexual sex, but in homosexual sex it seems that there are several ways of "losing" virginity.
So, do I lose it when given an orgasm? When I give one? When I suck? When I am sucked? When I penetrate him? When he penetrates me? Any of the above? All of the above?
Assume for a moment that it actually matters 
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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I have thought about this a lot over the past few years and i am now sure it was in the summer of my 12th year. I was born in spring so I had just turned 12.
Though i had explored a bit before this, that summer we went all the way both oral and anal hehehe no doubt about loss of verginity there. I can't to this day remember his name, we had just moved back from living in Mexico city and were moving on again late that summer. Wish we had stayed a bit longer : P
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timmy
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~giggles~
I mean te technical pint? Not when tu lost yours A well.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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timmy
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I shall try that again!
I mean the technical point, not "where were you when you lost yours?"
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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LOL yeah i lost about a pint that day i would say
People will tell you where they've gone
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But till you get there yourself you never really know
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marc
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Registered: March 2003
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Tim,
This is an easy and hard question all at the same time.
There are so many variables with homosexual sex that I guess there would have to be degrees of virgilal depleation. I also think that with each new experience learned there is always a new twist yet to explore.
That to me is why I look forward to each new encounter, because to me, the beauty of it is to make every time as fresh and happy and beautiful as the first as the first.
So I have to think that a guys virginity is not a thing that is lost. It is a renewable resource.
Well,
I think thats healthy? Don't you?
Marc
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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In a sinse don't we lose our virginity when we become sexualy awear? By that I mean when we know more than it feels good to stimulate our erogenous zones. It seems to me that once you know about it between ppl it just kind of opens the door to everything else. does it have to be pyhsical?
People will tell you where they've gone
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But till you get there yourself you never really know
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marc
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Well, I've tried cybering.... It's ok.....
But it doesn't compete with a good blowjob.....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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Hehehe Good point
People will tell you where they've gone
They'll tell you where to go
But till you get there yourself you never really know
Where some have found their paradise
Other's just come to harm
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I think THAT more or less defines the moment.
In a strict Biblical sense, I think it's when the penis penetrates the vagina. This would question whether a strict homosexual could ever really lose his virginity. Then again he may never have had it to begin with. Any male born via normal childbirth HAS penetrated a vagina, though he probably doesn't recall it.
Think good thoughts,
e
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What a vantage point to view the question from, e! Cool...Turning narrow homophobic definitions against fanatics, and we all remain perpetual virgins? Hmmm...
I too find it difficult to determine at what point virginity is lost...any penetration, possibly.
But maybe a situational definition might be best. The first time I did this or that, the first time with so-and-so. That might be flexible enough to fit most people's real lives.
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To me the only answer I can give to anyone asking that question is a question of my own. Virginity is always going to be less clearly defined with males, even heterosexual ones, but to me virginity is something you choose to give away, it needs to be a conscience decision, either before, during or after the act. For me it was the first time penetration was involved, from a 'giving' point of view, though I only felt it was half lost until I was penetrated myself....
Look at this tree. I cannot make it blossom when it suits me nor make it bear fruit before its time [...] No matter what you do, that seed will grow to be a peach tree. You may wish for an apple or an orange, but you will get a peach.
Master Oogway
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smith
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That is so totally whacked and great Would that lead to really messed up gay Oedipal confusion???
keep thinking ~ smith
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My head leads me some very strange directions sometimes. Personally I think virginity is personal and can be whatever a person wishes to define it as. So only we can actually say for ourselves what it takes to lose it.
An Oedipal complex is pretty messed up anyways, smith, if you think about it. Wanting sex with your mother and killing your father. But in a gay Oedipal complex, would you want sex with your father and to kill your mother? They say girls go through something like that and call it an 'Electra complex', but I doubt it would be the same for gays. We'd probably want sex with our fathers, then to kill ourselves. Come to think of it, maybe that's why so many gays commit suicide, hmmm.
How I got here from virginity, I'll never know.
Think good thoughts,
e
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Define the exact moment of loss of virginity for me? 
What is meant by "virginity?" 