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icon7.gif A bit of fun .....  [message #19902] Fri, 27 February 2004 01:00 Go to next message
kevin is currently offline  kevin

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At our homophobic Presidents party and Florida

http://www.bushflash.com/gta.html

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icon3.gif Re: A bit of fun .....  [message #19904 is a reply to message #19902] Fri, 27 February 2004 03:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dartagnon is currently offline  dartagnon

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A bit of Fun Nothing! That's downright criminal. I'd always suspected foul play in that election, even duplicity and commone enough idiocy, but never outright election fraud, illegal records altering and flagrant stereotying and racism. It just plain boggles the mind that such events were not only allowed to continue, but that the much vaunted "Family Values" oriented Republican Party is now taking what appear to be Socialist, Communist, possibly even Nazist policies towards their own ability to seize power. New World Order, indeed! I don't consider myself politically active, but while the Republicans were soooo busy trying to nail President Clinton for a little slap and tickle, seems they were just ripening the rest of us for the brutal rape to come. And then Mr. Bush pays the whole country hush money from our budget's surpluss (The first time we've had a budget surpluss since before WWI) and then starts an unnecessary war over oil (which incidentally, ws where his own family made their fortune).

Oh, how my pissed off eyes have been opened.

D'Artagnon



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icon3.gif Thanks Kevin...  [message #19906 is a reply to message #19904] Fri, 27 February 2004 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lenny is currently offline  lenny

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Loved the link! {{{hug}}}

Thanks to you too, D. That was an interesting post you wrote.

You know, sometimes I am glad I do not live in the US. It's a fascinating, marvellous country, but the racism and discrimination that goes on still in the land of the free is so scary, and the monster that is the federal government and the presidency at the top, that is downright frightening.

On wednesday this week I read an editorial in Sweden's largest evening paper (the one I occationally post links to here on this board), which was about "that f******g Texas-geezer" (do a google on that phrase for a good laugh!), and how he rules his country.

Columnist Carl Hamilton starts out slowly, talking about fairly benign things (well...), stuff like his 'shoot first, ask questions later' politics, how he crashed and burned the Kyoto protocol, the international war-crimes tribunal and the anti-nuclear missile agreement amongst other things (international free trades agreement got a knock by US steel import regulation too btw, and it wasn't even effective).

He continues onwards to mention things like the insane deficit, half a trillion dollars, an absolutely mindboggling figure to most people - except a politician I guess. Then it's called "pocketmoney" I guess. ;-D The seemingly endless war in Iraq - a billion a week, cost in human lives not included.

One would think Bush is a somewhat slow-witted but generally fairly harmless conservative by looking at his portrayal in the media, but then Mr. Hamilton goes on to mention how the - to an American - soothingly patriotic-sounding "Department of Homeland Security" was created, and the part D. senator Max Cleland played in that.

Apparantly, Cleland was sceptical of giving this new department such sweeping powers to intrude into people's privacy, actions that were not looked upon favorably by the Bush regime. I can only take the author of the column's word for it, but in the elections for the senate, it seems a picture of Mr. Cleland was lined up alongside images of terrorist Usama Bin Laden and ex-dictator Saddam Hussein in a TV commercial. This despite the fact Max Cleland fought in Vietnam and became physically crippled because of it. Well, he lost the election, though maybe he was a lousy senator and it wasn't because of the low-blow he received from the enemy camp, but one can't help thinking it was a contributing factor.

The author of the column goes on to end it on a fairly alarmist note, accusing the Bush family of having dynastic tendencies and wishing to topple the country's democratic institutions. Guess that is going a bit far, but it DOES seem like very dirty fighting is a staple in Dubya's 'compassionate conservatism'; just see what they tried to do with John Kerry, regarding the false story about him having an affair with some other woman and the doctored photo of him alongside Jane Fonda at an anti-Vietnam war rally. Of course, neither of those can be directly tied to the leadership of the Republican party. It is still rather alarming that such methods are employed by ANYONE in the country that considers itself the foremost example of democracy on this planet.

Now, why should I care? Why do I write such long posts on this subject when I live a quarter or more around the world from where all this happens? Well, for starters, I am intrigued by it all, because I find conspiracy theories and misuse of power fascinating in a weird sort of way. Of course I do not believe in all the conspiracy theories one will stumble upon out there, that would be nuts, but I do enjoy a good tale even though it is not always true. Some Hollywood movies about far-reaching conspiracies and misuse of the considerable power of the US government rank highly on my all-time favorites list, so from this reason alone it does intrigue me.

Second, and more importantly... America IS an important democracy, that is undisputable, and if democracy falters there, it runs the risk of faltering everywhere. We in Europe are already busy little bees building up our own impregnable castle of bureauocracy that is the European Union, a nest of snakes with ambitions reaching very VERY far indeed (for example, guys like Italy's Silvio Berlusconi are about as scary as George Dubya, though not as powerful fortunately). Now, the EU could be a very good thing, but as it seems, that is not the way they are heading.



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direct my sail."

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icon7.gif Thanks Chopper, Thanks Lenny ...  [message #19908 is a reply to message #19906] Fri, 27 February 2004 15:55 Go to previous message
kevin is currently offline  kevin

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As far as Kyoto, The court in the Haige, the stuff about Florida, Haliburton, and demonizing Max Cleland and calling him a traitor during the campaign (I believe is was Saxby Chandlis) are all true.

Unfortunately that stuff is just the begining.

He is like Robin Hood in some strange Bizaro World robing from the poor to give to the rich.

I hope he doesn't do to much damage before we can kick him out in November. I will work to make that happen from now till then, that is a promise.

Please vote, we need every one we can get.

Thanks,

Kevin



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