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icon4.gif The Human Face on the Current Human Rights Movement  [message #20355] Mon, 05 April 2004 11:35 Go to next message
david in hong kong is currently offline  david in hong kong

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By LISA LEFF, Associated Press Writer

SAN FRANCISCO - When David Knight married his boyfriend of 10 years, his parents were not among the mothers and fathers proudly snapping photos and sipping champagne at San Francisco's City Hall. His mother is long gone, dead of cancer when he was 17. And his father, well his father ...

These are precarious times for the gay son of state Sen. William J. "Pete" Knight, the arch-conservative architect of California's Defense of Marriage Act.


"He believes in something I don't," David Knight says, his voice tight with checked emotion as he talks about the patriarch he idolized in his youth. "I'm sorry about that and I feel sad that we can't discuss it ... I don't agree with him, but I think he's a good man."


Whether same-sex couples should be allowed to marry moved from a hypothetical question to a presidential campaign topic after Massachusetts' highest court and San Francisco's mayor forced the issue, prompting conservatives to call for rewriting the U.S. Constitution and dividing state legislatures across the land.


For the Knights, it's the ultimate wedge issue.


The elder Knight, a 75-year-old Republican being termed out of office this year, is California's most outspoken opponent of marriage for gay and lesbian couples. Since spearheading the 2000 ballot initiative that reinforced California's "one man, one woman" marriage laws, he has used the courts to keep state agencies from granting spousal rights to same-sex couples. His nonprofit group is at the center of the legal challenges to San Francisco's same-sex wedding spree.


The younger, a 42-year-old custom furniture maker in Baltimore, flew to the city with his longtime partner and got married just two days before the California Supreme Court shut down the weddings. The court is considering whether city officials had the authority to contravene state law by sanctioning almost 4,000 gay and lesbian marriages.


Sen. Knight would not talk about his son, or his son's legally uncertain marriage to Joseph Lazzarro, an architectural designer. But during an interview with The Associated Press, he insisted his drive to keep gays from marrying doesn't make him anti-gay.


"We've had homosexuals since time immemorial," he said, "and nobody cared as long as they did their work and they didn't flaunt their sexuality and didn't try to push it on you and say, 'You have to accept me.' But now they are going to say they want to be classified as normal, and I can't accept the fact that two men, married, is normal."


The senator, who represents a heavily Republican Southern California district, took his 14-word California Defense of Marriage Act to voters after twice failing to get a similar bill through the Democrat-controlled Legislature.


Years earlier, David Knight had told his father he was in a committed relationship with another man.


David Knight was the only one of the retired Air Force colonel's three sons to follow their father, a record-setting test pilot, into a career as a military pilot. He graduated from the U.S. Air Force Academy and flew jets in the first Persian Gulf War (news - web sites).


"My father was certainly proud of me. He spoke at my pilot training graduation," David Knight recalled.


After he came out, David said everything they shared was severed by their disagreement over what his father considers an unacceptable lifestyle.


"As far as the rejection, it's hurt every day since, and that's just a reality," David Knight said. "I don't think he's proud of me anymore, but I will say I could call my father at any time and he would not hang up on me."


The younger Knight doesn't think his father's crusade has anything to do with his own sexual orientation.


David Knight nevertheless felt compelled to lend his voice to the heated campaign over "the Knight initiative," as Proposition 22 became known. His opinion piece for the Los Angeles Times in 1999, "My Father is Wrong on Gays," characterized his estranged father's position as "a blind, uncaring, uninformed, knee-jerk reaction to a subject about which he knows nothing and wants to know nothing."





David did not publicly counter his father's politics again until San Francisco's historic experiment.

With the senator calling the parade of unprecedented nuptials "a sideshow," his son found himself torn between familial loyalty and his responsibility as a gay man to make another statement.

"The worst image David could muster for himself was that he would be the poster child, and it has taken a long time for him to understand that you can do that without selling your guts," said Lazzaro, 39, the more naturally extroverted of the pair.

The son could not be talked out of going through with the marriage. The memory of his father reaching out to shake his hand at family events, while refusing to greet or even look at Lazzaro, still angered him.

"We're a classic conservative family — keep it in the closet. If you don't talk about it, it's not a problem," he said. "I know I have my father's love and I honestly feel that, but I want his acknowledgment. I want him to recognize me and Joe."

As the gay offspring of a conservative politician, David Knight belongs to a small but visible group that also includes the lesbian daughter of Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) and the gay son of Christian activist Phyllis Schlafly.

Knight and his new husband have a reality check of sorts in Lazzaro's parents. Although it took time for them to accept them as a couple, his mother gave them matching rose boutonnieres to wear on their wedding day. Joseph Lazzaro later called his father, a retired auto worker, not knowing what to expect.

"He said, 'Congratulations, I'm very proud of you,'" Lazzaro recalled. "I told him about how it went with David's dad, and my dad said, 'I feel sorry for David's dad because he is just missing out on so much and there is going to be a hollow place in his life.'"



"Always forgive your enemies...nothing annoys them quite so much." Oscar Wilde
Knight is an ass  [message #20357 is a reply to message #20355] Mon, 05 April 2004 15:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Until last year, I lived in Pete Knight's district. He is one of the most hardened and uncaring people I have ever known. He's as bigoted as they get. He's a fundamentalist, right-wing Christian whose mind is completely closed and nailed shut. You could put a rose in front of the man and if he wanted to call it a lilly, by God it would be a lilly and there would be absolutely no discussion on the matter. He tells you what you should believe and how you should think. He calls himself anti-abortion and pro family, but after the child is born, he couldn't care less about what happens to it. He's supported and even written legislation that has hurt poor families and made it very difficult to stop or prevent child abuse by cutting funding for treatment and prevention programs and welfare. it's good that term limits are about to get him out of office. Hopefully he won't run for anything else.

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icon9.gif This is why I don't like conservatives...  [message #20358 is a reply to message #20357] Mon, 05 April 2004 15:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They're so often horrible hypocrites, they promote the rich on expense of the poor in the name of economic progress, they fight economic benefit programs for low-income families knowing this will lead to empoverishment and more people in jail which will cost more money than was saved, and they promote people to have babies even though they're not capable of taking care of their offspring...

Anyway, I'm really glad you decided to tell us about the kind of person he is, his son seems to want to be diplomatic and calls him a good man, but in light of what you say that seems higly debatable. Thanks e...

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Re: This is why I don't like conservatives...  [message #20360 is a reply to message #20358] Mon, 05 April 2004 17:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In UK politics I am a "Conservative". But only because it is, for me, the "least worst" of the various parties.

Th euK tory party has its fair share of asshol;es and of reformers. No different from the socialists.

One should really be against closed minded imbeciles rather than a political bent.



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icon3.gif The ones I refer to is...  [message #20362 is a reply to message #20360] Mon, 05 April 2004 18:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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...people with conservative MINDS, not neccessarily people who call themselves conservative. If you know what I mean. Wink

There are plenty of leftist nuts in Sweden by the way, probably more people in absolute numbers here than in the UK despite the huge difference in population. The UK has a much stronger capitalist foundation because it's the birthplace of modern industrialism I guess, that's easy to see now that I've spent some time in both countries and learned a little about how your place works.

These people believe in banning all forms of ownership, everything being shared and divided precisely equal etc and other completely unrealistic and quite frankly bizarre ideas. The difference between these nuts and the conservative minds is that however misguided they may be, the leftists are at least striving to unite humanity, not divide it through arbitrary, totalitarian economic means.

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icon7.gif This is only one reason ....  [message #20366 is a reply to message #20358] Wed, 07 April 2004 09:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why I don't like conservatives actions. I must stop short of saying I dislike them personally, but I do oppose much of their ideology.

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icon6.gif Hey Kev...  [message #20367 is a reply to message #20366] Wed, 07 April 2004 16:25 Go to previous message
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Why don't you log in and chat with me every once in a while, huh? Smile

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