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timmy
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Not all people we meet online are friends. Many are, most are, but a few are not.
Those who offer to share with you items that are unlawful are not friends. Those who seek from you items that are unlawful are not friends.
This is especially important where the material appears to be innocently exchanged.
You may want to look at http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2003/30042--b.htm#46 to see an extract from the United Kingdom Sexual Offences Act 2003.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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timmy
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It is worth remembering in addition that not everyione you meet is as they seem.
A friend of mine a year ago discovered that his online boyfriend of some 17 summers was a man of some 50 winters. That was not his best day.
There are, in addition to imbeciles and evil people, those who actually just entrap you, for their own amusement.
It thus behoves you to both neither send nor receive unusual items, and to wipe the white space on your disks regualrly from time to time in case items "creep in".
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Computer viruses used to be far nastier than they are these days - they would reformat your hard disk, or even repeat a mechanical operation so many times that it would break something. Modern viruses are so tame that no-one really takes them seriously. So what if there is something sitting in the background emailing itself to your friends? All most people want to do is surf the web and write letters and look at (legal) porn.
Sooner or later someone will write a virus that doesn't just propagate itself and do amusing things to your computer.
All it would take is for one disgruntled teenager to write a virus that uploaded child porn to millions of computers and all hell would break loose.
It would be rather amusing, actually.
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Here is Dryden's translation of the lines you quoted from Vergil's Aeneid Book 9:
Black was the forest: thick with beech it stood,
Horrid with fern, and intricate with thorn;
Few paths of human feet, or tracks of beasts, were worn.
I don't understand why you have quoted this or its relevance.
And, if we are translating Latin signatures - what does mine mean and where does it come from? ;-D
The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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Aaargh... I posted a reply here and it seems to have disappeared. How bizarre.
Anyway, it goes something like
My hand is desirous; my penis, my little penis, eager!
My hand is eager to take hold of it.
Mine is a bit random. An outsider could just about the connection, but it would rely on you knowing my email address (which is on my web site) and knowing that Dryden's translation of the word "ilice" is wrong.
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Aaargh again. I meant to reply to JFR. Sorry.
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timmy
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Just to bring this back on track, the topic is serious. I especially want to remind people that items which were lawful at one time became unlawful with the passiong of new legislation. So, whiel it was once lawful to have pictures of questionable taste between the ages of 16 and 18, those pictures became unlawful, and possession became an offence.
The thing is, that very fact can be used by unpleasant persons out to entrap the unwary.
It is wise to not only delete inappropriate material but to erase it with software that erases white space. Itis wiser still not to possess it, but some websites thrust their material onto you when you surf
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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It's just alot easier to not go surfing about where questionable material can be found...... either by design or by hapenstance.
If you do end up collecting questionable material you run the risk of being under the microscope for a long long time.
Why not even consider a widely accepted alternative to surfing about looking for problemas.....
Try turning off the computer and joining the real world......
It's all in what you decide to make of it.....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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My dictionary give for ilex "holm oak". I have no idea what that is! Probably Dryden had no idea either. Why do you think "lime" is better than "beech" or "holm oak"?
Your translation of my signature was OK  Now: where does it come from?
The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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Well, I found a translation of some of the words on:
http://www.duzan.org/gary/catulli_carmina.html
(Catulli Carmina, whatever that is)
but they aren't quite the same. No idea if it's not that.
No, I didn't mean lime. I meant that my email address is * at holmoak.co.uk and I own the domain holmoak.co.uk... and that that passage was where I got the idea to register it. Exceedingly obscure so it's not surprising that no-one got it! I also give my computers trees' names: sycamore, beech, holmoak, alder, lime... for no particular reason except that they need to be unique, and those names are as nice as any.
I'll post my personal translation of the Aeneid passage this evening, but I must rush now: I am joining a feature film shoot in an hour and a half, which is very exciting.
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timmy
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 In this case the "off switch" is insufficient. If you have it on your pc, delete it now and wipe the white space. Your point is well taken, though.
It has been known for people who allege friendship to act as agents provacteurs and to send to others what purported to be private "for your eyes only" material, conceivably of themselves and work with relevant enforcement authorities under the guise of befriending others.
This is akin to the UK scheme of sending kids to tobacconists to buy tobacco when they are under age but appear old enougg, and then prosecuting the tobacconist for selling it.
Make friends freely. Simply do not accept unusual material from them. And if they send it, wipe it.
[Updated on: Thu, 30 June 2005 07:54]
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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The ilex genus includes holly. Does that help?
Hugs
N
I dream of boys with big bulges in their trousers,
Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.
…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
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Well done, Deej! Impressive.
Catulli Carmina (Catullus' Poems) is a choral work by Karl Orff, based on the Latin text of some of the poems of Catullus to his "Lesbia" (aka Claudia Pulcher). My signature comes from the very exciting introduction. The music is exhilirating. It is reminiscent of his introduction to a similar work "Carmina Burana" (bawdy songs in medieval German), "O fortuna", which is well known.
Sorry to have bored you all stiff.
The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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marc
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I was refering to turning off the computer not as a means to hiding illegal porn........ but as a means of going out and getting a life.......
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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timmy
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What I am looking at here is entrapment. Your advice is wholly sensible for all circumstances other than that. But, if peole wewre comfy wityh their ordinary lives, they would not be here at this meeting place for questing souls.
It is those questing souls, especially our younger friends, who can fall foul of the less pleasant people in the world and become innocently entrapped with material they would normally never even have thought about possessing.
The technology, you see, is great. Many people have webcams. There are webcam sites that allow you to expose private moments to the world. And there is a grave temptation to send private moments to a friend.
Yes, the off switch should be used well before you send a questionable picture to anyone else, but "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" is a game almost all of us played as kids. It is just dangerous online.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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Oh i know fully well what you are refering to. The only people that fall prey to those bent on entraping are those that are willing to fall prey.
Common sense has to take a role in the utcome of any interaction.
If a thing is unheard of without the net then it is unheard of with it as well.
Young people need warning I totaly agree with that notion.
As far as show and tell online..... well rest assured, there is no safe way to plat that game.
I know that on these happy-go-lucky queer sites there is a cloak of suedo bravado that tends to allow the usually unwary to drop their guard but those are the times when ones guard should be up.
There is no safe places on the internet... none.. there are only the places where you didnt get caught.
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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Sending a picture of what you are doing sexually with another, or what you have dangling, over the internet is like doing the same thing in the middle of your street. It may be exciting, but it is illegal. Little children could stumble accross it, and it could cause your old Uncle Jim to have a heart attack and drive off the road. I don't think It's illegal to paint a word picture for your friend/friends, and if you paint your picture in Latin or Greek, you won't even have to worry about my health. :-*
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timmy
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I had been searching for the right words. You hit them bang on!
Now make either or both participants under 18 and you have a recipe for law officers to arrive. Age of sexual consent does not matter. Th ekaw is about age of person in the picture. And at some ages we find that genitalia are quite simple to age. Immature genitalia and oyu can be darned sure the possession of the picture is unlawful.
A gay site we may be, but an "Anything goes site" we are not. And whiel we may not have a "duty" to offer moral or other advice, we have inexpert people here and should offer it when we have it.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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