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So if someone walked all over you for year and years.
And you told them where they could shove it and didn't talk to them for awhile.
Then they waltz back in and cry the sob story about how theyve changed and there sorry and they hope you can forgive them.
What do you do?
Why are you wearing that stupid man suit?
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Andy, do you care about them? Are they sincere? People do change, some people discover they have been wrong and want to make things right. I would forgive them if they ask, but I would make it very clear that they would have to prove themselves. that Im not going to take things at face value. they will have to set a new track record.
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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Yeah. I take it at face value and am like oh great there sorry time to move on. then they fuck up and again I say Oh there sorry well try again, Then they mess up... Then they yell and hurt me. And i still ignore and forgive them. Then they come begging for mercy. And my reaction is ok, alls forgiven.
But what if doing that will sincerely hurt someone you love?
But then what if not forgiving them will also hurt the other kid.
Ever hear that song by the Fray its all that goes through my mind as I think about this.
Step one you say we need to talk
He walks you say sit down it's just a talk
He smiles politely back at you
You stare politely right on through
Some sort of window to your right
As he goes left and you stay right
Between the lines of fear and blame
And you begin to wonder why you came
Where did I go wrong, I lost a friend
Somewhere along in the bitterness
And I would have stayed up with you all night
Had I known how to save a life
Let him know that you know best
Cause after all you do know best
Try to slip past his defense
Without granting innocence
Lay down a list of what is wrong
The things you've told him all along
And pray to God he hears you
Where did I go wrong, I lost a friend
Somewhere along in the bitterness
And I would have stayed up with you all night
Had I known how to save a life
As he begins to raise his voice
You lower yours and grant him one last choice
Drive until you lose the road
Or break with the ones you've followed
He will do one of two things
He will admit to everything
Or he'll say he's just not the same
And you'll begin to wonder why you came
Where did I go wrong, I lost a friend
Somewhere along in the bitterness
And I would have stayed up with you all night
Had I known how to save a life
Why are you wearing that stupid man suit?
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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It really depends what you mean by "forgive".
Forgiving does not mean they can do more bad stuff with impunity. It just means forgiving what they have done in the past if you choose to.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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because you forgive someone doenst mena you have to have them around to do the same thing again. You can forgive them with the understanding that they keep doing the same thing and so you dont want them around because you will get to the place you cant forgive any more.
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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>Then they waltz back in and cry the sob story about how theyve changed and there sorry and they hope you can forgive them.
to be honest it sounds like more selfishness on their part doesn't it?
I'd be durn sure they were tellin the truth. talk is cheap you know..
I'd wanna see some changes not just hear about them. You don't need to tell them this, just watch. If they haven't changed it'll still be an abusive relationship.
Either they're sincere or lying. And of course anyone can backslide.. but you'll know..( :
Teddy 
Life's a trip * Friends help you through * Adventure on life!
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