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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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I have a complex question about sexual abuse, as it is termed today. Actually the question is about the result of perceptions by others, of sexual abuse.
First I want totally to condemn adult/child sexual acts under all circumstances where the child is coerced, forced, intimidated, blackmailed or otherwise induced against his or her will into a sexual act. Those are not the subject I want to discuss in this thread. Those we have discussed to death before. Equally we have discussed to death the concept that the adult is always at fault, and we have talked about the person who bears the responsibility to say "no" as always being the adult. So let us take that as read, please,
What I want to discuss is different.
I want to look at the guilt the child receives from other people, even when the relationship has been just that: a relationship. And even when only good was done to both parties.
I have long suspected that a child who was part of such a relationship only feels guilt when told to, instructed to, by the media, that searches nowadays for an ogre to blame for everything, almost as a part of the culture of litigation.
The question, really, is "Should a child who has been loved, felt loved, and returned love in a truly two way supportive relationship, be made to feel guilty because they loved an older person?"
I am not sure I've asked it very well.
PLEASE don’t get into a great rant about adult/child sex. Instead please look at the topic I am posing. I see it as a very different issue, the issue of guilt and received guilt from media activity.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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This wil be easy to snipe at. Please think instead
By: timmy on Sun, 09 February 2003 18:36
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Guilty? I don't think so...
By: toms on Sun, 09 February 2003 19:53
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I have no doubt
By: Plug on Sun, 09 February 2003 20:12
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Joint answer for Tom and Plug. More questions
By: timmy on Sun, 09 February 2003 21:36
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Few answers
By: Plug on Sun, 09 February 2003 22:40
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Qualification
By: Plug on Mon, 10 February 2003 00:24
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Usually it is a balance
By: timmy on Mon, 10 February 2003 00:35
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What you are asking isn't about love
By: e on Mon, 10 February 2003 01:50
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Point taken, but...
By: toms on Mon, 10 February 2003 02:59
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Degrees of love
By: e on Mon, 10 February 2003 04:02
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Agreed, it's about actions resulting from love
By: Plug on Mon, 10 February 2003 03:28
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Informed consent
By: e on Mon, 10 February 2003 07:23
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So, let's return to the guilt
By: timmy on Mon, 10 February 2003 08:47
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Re: So, let's return to the guilt
By: e on Mon, 10 February 2003 16:10
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Re: So, let's return to the guilt
By: timmy on Mon, 10 February 2003 17:29
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For gods sake, BE REALISTIC FOR ONCE!!!!!!!!!!!
By: Guest on Mon, 10 February 2003 22:42
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Do not shout
By: timmy on Mon, 10 February 2003 22:46
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Good bye
By: Guest on Tue, 11 February 2003 01:02
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No need to leave
By: e on Tue, 11 February 2003 03:22
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Staying totally with the child's reaction
By: e on Tue, 11 February 2003 03:18
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Re: So, let's return to the guilt
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By definition of the law there is guilt.
By: charlie on Tue, 11 February 2003 01:44
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Re: This wil be easy to snipe at. Please think instead
By: trevor on Tue, 11 February 2003 05:10
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It is certainly tough to discuss unemotionally
By: timmy on Tue, 11 February 2003 08:37
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Think about a slightly different situation
By: Guest on Tue, 11 February 2003 10:54
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Re: Think about a slightly different situation
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Welcome, robert!
By: trevor on Wed, 12 February 2003 03:29
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Re: Welcome, robert!
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Frog? Maybe I could play "princess"?
By: trevor on Wed, 12 February 2003 04:13
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Sorry for polluting the serious thread, timmy. A little silly here.
By: trevor on Wed, 12 February 2003 04:19
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