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Church, Religion, Faith, Core Values. [message #14679]

Wed, 17 September 2003 20:56

timmy

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Rob noted and asked as follows:

I sense a strong dislike for the church or organized religion. Why is this so if at all?

He then added:

When I form friendships of any kind I look for a commonality, some common ground conducive to mutual respect. Core beliefs play a huge role in establishing mutual respect.

I have space hsi thoughts into those paragraphs to make the thoughts a little more accessible. I trust, Rob, that you do not disapprove of that minor moderator's licence

I feel this is a worthy set of issues. It will have a different answer depending onthe nation or even the state you live in. For example, 67% of US Citizens attend church on a Sunday compared with 7% of UK citizens.

This is a topic for true discussion. It is not one for seeking to convert others to one's own view. Each "side" of such a discussion will always be right, you see. So the objective is to understand different views.

We must also recognise that there are different faiths here as well as different religions. And that no faith or no religion is the state for some people. We can do this without getting angry, without raised hackles and witout making those of one persuasion feel picked on by those of another. So let's do it. We have a huge wealth of brainpower, and of exerience here.

Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School

		Church, Religion, Faith, Core Values. By: timmy on Wed, 17 September 2003 20:56
		Re: Church, Religion, Faith, Core Values. By: misplaced on Wed, 17 September 2003 21:12
		Re: Church, Religion, Faith, Core Values. By: robert bryce on Thu, 18 September 2003 16:46
		wholly bewildered By: misplaced on Thu, 18 September 2003 17:05
		Re: wholly bewildered By: robert bryce on Thu, 18 September 2003 17:51
		When I meet someone........ By: marc on Wed, 17 September 2003 22:12
		Re: When I meet someone........ By: robert bryce on Wed, 17 September 2003 23:58
		Re: When I meet someone........ By: timmy on Thu, 18 September 2003 00:06
		Well, when someone continually..... By: marc on Thu, 18 September 2003 10:13
		Re: Well, when someone continually..... By: robert bryce on Thu, 18 September 2003 16:12
		Re: Well, when someone continually..... By: marc on Thu, 18 September 2003 19:26
		Re: Well, when someone continually..... By: robert bryce on Sat, 20 September 2003 15:36
		Re: When I meet someone........ By: marc on Fri, 19 September 2003 21:02
		a very personal view By: timmy on Wed, 17 September 2003 22:31
		Timmy, you've done it again! By: Steve on Thu, 18 September 2003 06:29
		Must be the gay gene, plus the late hour By: timmy on Thu, 18 September 2003 06:57
		Re: Church, Religion, Faith, Core Values. By: misplaced on Wed, 17 September 2003 22:42
		Re: Church, Religion, Faith, Core Values. By: marc on Wed, 17 September 2003 22:52
		Re: Church, Religion, Faith, Core Values. By: arich on Thu, 18 September 2003 02:12
		Re: Church, Religion, Faith, Core Values. By: kevin on Thu, 18 September 2003 09:58
		Re: Church, Religion, Faith, Core Values. By: robert bryce on Thu, 18 September 2003 16:28
		Sorry but .... By: kevin on Thu, 18 September 2003 16:35
		Re: Sorry but .... By: robert bryce on Fri, 19 September 2003 06:48
		Re: Sorry but .... By: timmy on Fri, 19 September 2003 06:58
		Re: Sorry but .... By: robert bryce on Fri, 19 September 2003 07:10
		Not full circle, but closing By: timmy on Fri, 19 September 2003 13:34
		Re: Sorry but .... By: marc on Sat, 20 September 2003 10:35
		Re: Sorry but .... By: robert bryce on Sat, 20 September 2003 11:24
		Wel, I'm sorry too, but....... By: smith on Sat, 20 September 2003 13:59
		Re: Wel, I'm sorry too, but....... By: robert bryce on Sat, 20 September 2003 15:42
		Re: Wel, I'm sorry too, but....... By: ch.oo.lo on Sat, 20 September 2003 16:07
		Re: Wel, I'm sorry too, but....... By: robert bryce on Sat, 20 September 2003 16:26
		Re: Wel, I'm sorry too, but....... By: ch.oo.lo on Sat, 20 September 2003 16:51
		Re: Wel, I'm sorry too, but....... By: robert bryce on Sat, 20 September 2003 17:45
		If you feel we are not your kind of people .... By: kevin on Sat, 20 September 2003 17:59
		Pantheism and polytheism has a place too By: timmy on Sat, 20 September 2003 18:02
		It seems all of us bar one teach tolerance By: timmy on Sat, 20 September 2003 17:36
		Almost across that line. By: timmy on Sat, 20 September 2003 17:33
		Re: Sorry but .... By: marc on Sat, 20 September 2003 23:16
		precisley the point By: timmy on Sat, 20 September 2003 17:40
		Re: Church, Religion, Faith, Core Values. By: marc on Thu, 18 September 2003 21:10
		Re: Church, Religion, Faith, Core Values. By: robert bryce on Thu, 18 September 2003 16:36
		What anger? I have not seen any from others? By: kevin on Thu, 18 September 2003 16:46
		Re: What anger? I have not seen any from others? By: robert bryce on Thu, 18 September 2003 16:56
		I see none By: kevin on Thu, 18 September 2003 17:01
		accusative behaviour has no place here By: timmy on Thu, 18 September 2003 17:03
		I am sorry Timmy ..... I did not mean to accuse anyone ... By: kevin on Thu, 18 September 2003 17:51
		you didn't By: timmy on Thu, 18 September 2003 19:36
		That interests me By: timmy on Thu, 18 September 2003 17:16
		Re: That interests me By: robert bryce on Thu, 18 September 2003 17:26
		Re: That interests me By: timmy on Thu, 18 September 2003 17:35
		Re: That interests me By: robert bryce on Thu, 18 September 2003 18:01
		It is nothing to do with word being law By: timmy on Thu, 18 September 2003 20:44
		Here here Timmy !!! By: kevin on Thu, 18 September 2003 21:46
		Spilled brains do not allow understanding By: timmy on Thu, 18 September 2003 17:00
		Re: Church, Religion, Faith, Core Values. By: robert bryce on Sat, 20 September 2003 16:00
		Re: Church, Religion, Faith, Core Values. By: robert bryce on Sat, 20 September 2003 16:08
		Not going to rise to your bait By: timmy on Sat, 20 September 2003 17:50
		Just a general reminder ..... By: kevin on Sat, 20 September 2003 17:10

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