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Embarassment  [message #24380] Fri, 20 May 2005 14:36 Go to previous message
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Well, recently for a number of reasons I have taken a scholarly interest in pederasty as it existed in Ancient Greece and also as it is claimed to exist in modern forms ("Boylove" for want of a better word). Well, I went to the Uni library wanting to look up some books on the topic so I could form a more educated opinion rather than the knee-jerk reaction most people have to the issue (from both sides of the fence) and obviously wanting to be discrete I tried to use the self check-out desk.

Well, one book the library didn't have on record which meant it was reluctant to let itself be scanned- meaning I had to take it to the main desk and have the man there enter the full record into the computer system- Title: "The Age Taboo: Gay Male Sexuality, Power and Consent", Publisher: "The Gay Press". I could have tried blaming it on a thesis or research project but I didn't want to lie so I just kept quiet and was as discrete as I could be given the circumstances.

Anyway, then as I was trying to leave the library apparently I hadn't demagnitised the spine of one of the books properly so it beeped when I tried to leave, causing a DIFFERENT library staff member to come over and ask to see my books and the receipts of me checking them out. Well, in addition to the former one of the other books is titled "Sexual Experience Between Men and Boys" with others mentioning "Roman Homosexuality" and "Same Sex Union in Premodern Europe". Well, hopefully they thought it WAS for an assignment as I tried to keep up a professional manner and not blush despite my desire to crawl into my shoes, yet I still can't help but think that I should have just walked in and out of the library with a sign saying "gay paedophile" on both my front and back; it probably would have drawn less attention.

So far the reading has been very interesting and I will probably be making a topic about it or maybe even compiling my thoughts on the issue in a more essay form with formal quotes to back it up, etc. It is definitely a contentious issue, though and I hope everyone will be prepared for some serious NON-argumentative research-supported debate when and if I do post it.

One thing that does strike me though is that despite the fact that some of these books were written in the early 80s and even earlier than that- they write of a society that in reality is LITTLE different from now. In some areas gay liberation has progressed (gay marriage/ civil unions) but in other ways sexual liberation as a whole really has gone backwards! It is a pity that so many of the revolutionary changes from the 60s and 70s have been reversed by the more conservative and fiscally motivated 80s and 90s.



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