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What we think we know  [message #31296] Sun, 23 April 2006 19:00 Go to previous message
electroken is currently offline  electroken

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Gee guys it has been a rough couple of weeks for me. It seems that everything I know is wrong for one reason or another; makes me wonder if anyone EVER taught the truth to me in school or anywhere. I am led to suspect that I mis-interpreted almost all I learned as someone is always there to show that what I seem to think is right, is indeed proven wrong.

I know that many of you take what you find written on the internet as some kind of almost devine truth, but you may also be deceived as I always thought that my sources were so correct also.

I would bet that you can now go on the internet and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Tonken Gulf Incident, which propelled the US into a more involved war in Vietnam, was aboslutely false and that politicians made it up, etc. Well, I was there and I know that it happened. I heard the calls on the radio as I was on the bridge of my ship at the time. I heard (second hand of course) of eye-witness accounts of what had happened as the men on the destroyer which had been attacked, talked to the men on my ship about it. They described seeing torpedos in the water and I saw for myself the bullet and shell holes in the side of the ship.

But the incident is being taught in schools here as a lie! School kids are taught by their teachers that this thing did not occur and even site proof from articles written about it on the internet! I can probably still find a guy I knew who was an officer on one of the destroyers involved, and he would be angrily recounting for you those events. Would you believe him or what you see on the internet now days?

I say these things because some day what many of you now believe as fact will be somehow shown to be wrong, at least in some small way. Do you think in 40 years you will be able to find those wonderful proofs to support your story? Maybe not. In my youth I took many things I was taught in school as being factual although I did of course have some degree of sceptacism in a lot of things. We were told not to believe all we read as many put their own agenda into what they wrote and sometimes could twist the facts to suit what they said.

As to what I was told about German/English similarities and how it could help me learn German and even my English better, I guess it was all wrong since I can't seem to prove it. I know that Cossie did affirm some of it and I thank him for that. It did help me learn my German a bit so even if it was not true in any part of it, it did help me.

I guess my main fault in all of this lately is that I was used to thinking that my teachers would not deliberately lie to me. In the days when I did the majority of my learning there was no easy way to go and verify every word you were told. However, I dont necessarily take everything I find on the internet to be the absolute truth either.

I think that the whole thing about Global Warming is a case in point which has many in the press making the statement that "The majority of scientists agree that it is occuring" or words to that effect. Well in my humble opinion it makes a lot of difference as to just who these scientists are whom you ask. I heard an interview on radio with a fellow who was a scientist who studied weather and was using satalite weather statistics to record temperatures all over the world and had been doing it for a number of years. He stated that although it was a lot warmer in the summer in the USA it had been a lot colder in Europe during the winter. In the US the winter had been a lot warmer, yes, but in Siberia they were experiencing a lot colder than normal. He made the statement that although temperatures had changed in places that the average world temp had only gone up .01 degrees in 10 years. I wish I had remembered his name and all that and could dig up this for you, but I dont think I can. Does that mean what I am saying is a lie? Does it mean this guy I heard was a fake or lying; I dont think so. I just took what he said as reason to not totally trust the conclusions given to me by the press on this.



Ken
 
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