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True to my word, Thread on circumcision  [message #47147] Thu, 22 November 2007 18:55 Go to previous message
timmy

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There are strongly held views each way. The strongest held views are, oddly, not the religions that practice it, but the rather dogmatic folk who either insist on or insist against circumcision.

The really peculiar thing is that it is a coming of age rite in so many cultures, designed to show how manly the boy is while having his foreskin cut away. "Not flinching" is highly prized.

The major difficulty is the view that the circumcision is a covenant with God (Have I got that right JFR, thsi is what it is, I think?) held by Judaism.

I've no idea what the Islamic view is, but they are ritual circumcisers, too.

The USA was pushed into the act by Messrs Kellog (the cereal) and Graham (the Golden one), who pushed it as snake oil to cure all ills, and, unpleasantly, as a cure for masturbation, performed as a moral punishment.

Those who have been cut say that their sex is as good as anyone's. But they can't know that, it's a statement of faith.

Those who are intact say they have better sex. They can't know either.

A few of us can know. I do know the difference in masturbation before and after the rather unpleasant and highly painful surgery to remove my foreskin. Orgasms were better before and simpler to achieve and delay. I've never had penetrative sex with a foreskin!

Removal of the frenulum in most, but not all, men dulls sexual sensation severely. It did in mine. I have direct before/after comparison there. US circumcisers love removing the frenulum in the "high and tight" cut. Regrettably that also can give erection pain because the skin is far too tight

Adherents of the circumcised penis's aesthetics forget that those with a foreskin have a convertable! I saw "Naked Boys Singing" some years ago in NYC. All the cast appeared cut. And then one foreskin lowered. He was making use of the convertability of his penis. Aesthetics are this met for both sides.

I hope I've managed this without ranting, thus far.

The rant starts here. Circumcision is genital mutilation. Doing it to a child is abuse. Do it to yourself with proper medical consent with pleasure. If a deity wants people to mutilate their genitals then he needs to redesign the body himself.



Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
 
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